Civic Type R Ownership | A Trip to Crazy Town

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Published 2023-11-24
We discuss the pros and cons of owning the FL5 Civic Type R and comparisons to the Integra Type S. We discuss the engineering and technical side of the car with a deep dive into modern sports car philosophy. We talk about what makes the car unique. Others are VW Golf R, Elantra N, GR Corolla, Integra Type S, and Subaru WRX.

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Index:
00:00 Intro and Story
1:38 Interior and Exterior
4:00 Using as a Real Car
5:03 Montage Artificial
5:30 Explaining Type R and Body
9:50 Aero
11:40 Cooling
12:20 Suspension and Steering
19:15 Engine
20:00 DynoJet Results King Motorsports
20:39 Brakes
21:33 Weight
22:08 Sound Enhancement
24:07 MotoCompacto Race and Piano Black Jack
25:19 Street Drive
36:16 Conclusions

All Comments (21)
  • Stop making excuses and downplaying yourself, Mark. We are never bored, we like this stuff! Maybe your analytics say otherwise, but a large segment of your audience comes here for a deep engineering perspective they cannot get literally anywhere else!
  • @joeblacc8573
    Mark we love this sh*t lol. Vids like these are why we subscribe and I’m sure play a part in why you’ve gotten unprecedented access to the manufacturing process. This coulda been twice as long I’m sure 98% of us would still watch. Cliche I know but “keep it up and don’t change”.
  • @spade118
    10-15 years from now when this car is no longer around... This video will be. There will be that 2nd or 3rd owner who wants to know why the car is so special. This video will keep them hooked and they will love every minute. Thanks for preserving Hondas history with this effort. The enthusiasts appreciate the effort.
  • @neuronbob
    I am an ITS owner, Honda dude, and CTR appreciator. 1. Thanks for all the technical info as it helps me to understand my car better. 2. You are 100% correct in my opinion, about Honda not bringing back the old NSX and S2000, the reasons for doing so, and that for people who want that experience, to buy those cars now. (15 year S2000 owner, 8 year NSX owner here.) 3. CTR and ITS are an excellent one-car solution for the enthusiast with a family….if they are willing to pay the price and ADM. ITS is easier to find at MSRP at the moment. Thank you again!
  • @TingTingMelody
    As a fan of Honda, I really appreciate Mark's coverage of his S2000 and now CTR. I watched his S2000 video numerous times before finally purchasing one a few years ago, and still go back to it every now and then to learn more about it. I would love to buy a CTR someday, but without dealer mark up which might mean never. But at least I have Mark's videos and hopefully learned something.
  • @skidstung
    Just letting you know, you never bore us with technical information. The stuff you provide you can't get elsewhere. It's what makes this channel stand out. It such a nice listen too, even on a commute. So thank you very much!
  • @Static-MT
    We are never bored. The videos are never too technical or too long. They are never too in-depth or long winded. Let it all rip with these videos. If you're feeling self-conscious, just start making 5 minute drag race videos. Do not ease up on the in-depth videos. Thank you!
  • The engineering of the Type R is fascinating. So much more subtle than you’d think yet very purposeful. Like it really is taking a normal car and making it as much a race car as you can.
  • @captsavage3049
    This video is amazing. Thank you guys for what you do. I waffled so much on ordering a 22 SI and you guys are what finally convinced me to do it. It’s been an amazing car. I know everyone seems to want to have their own hot take, but I love what Honda has managed to do in this era of soulless cars.
  • @CruiseControl1
    When I drove the fk8 type r I was astounded by the ride quality in comfort mode, the practicality of the hatchback, the precision of the 6 speed manual and the piece de resistance was the cornering grip performance and lack of understeer. I think the fl5 looks better inside and out but the fk8 is finally coming down on the used car market and it may find a place next to my nb1 Miata in the garage.
  • @desaturat8d
    If I'm being honest, I'm not even necessarily in the market for a type-r but I still found this video very thoughtful and insightful. Thank you for sharing the technical information as well as your own personal insight and philosophy. It does have the feeling of an end of an era and what a way to go out.
  • @eppyz
    Still wouldn't trade my Evo 9 MR for one of these straight across. I think its great that Honda made this car, but Mitsubishi just nailed it with the Evo 9 MR. Sucks Mitsubishi doesn't make the Evo any longer. Or Ford the RS, or Subie the STI, pretty sad indeed.
  • @John-gq7vt
    Another reason we long for the sporty four cylinder manuals of the 80's, 90's, and 2000's... "It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow." I don't know who came up with that, an owner of a fast car or a slow car, but they were on to something. I love the time I spend driving my '87 CRX Si.
  • @Thkfast
    Glad to hear Mark mention MR2. The driving experience I had with my new 1988 MR2 Supercharged has never been duplicated. 145hp felt fast. RWD, plenty of grip, a wonderful green house with the T-tops...that car was memorable.
  • @censoredialogue
    2nd gen BRZ owner here. i loved your GR86 long term series and i know i’m gonna love this. as a huge car nerd and gearhead, y’all’s channel drops knowledge we can’t get anywhere else. much love.
  • @TiMtImInYtImTiM
    As a Rallye Red FL5 owner in the UK it's always good to hear educated opinions from people who actually take the time to know and understand. It's really difficult to silence the neigh-sayers and there are a lot of them. And this video is a good place to point them. Educational and a genuinely great watch.
  • @666chew
    Your "final thoughts" was the best argument for the Miata ND3 that'll come out next year, as their last ICE powered Miata. Great show today.
  • @Club-Version
    I’m so happy with my FL5!! Honestly it’s been the best duel purpose car I’ve ever owned.
  • @dreamdrivedrift
    Looking forward to getting a FL5. You hit the nail on the head - I have dedicated sports cars (S2000, E46 M3) but they have become more point A to point A type cars for a multitude of reasons and I don't drive them much. I was stuck trying to figure out what daily to get to replace my BRZ (not really looking to keep these past 50k miles and the shifter/clutch/throttle tuning is terrible which is what you engage with on a daily basis). I was between a FL5 and a Miata (yes, I know) but ended up finding a FL5 "allocation" at near MSRP. It's just hard to find a car that still has driver engagement with normal driving. None of the Germans do it, my MK5 Supra was deadass boring to drive unless you were going 10-11/10. I hope your channel helps the manufacturers understand we (enthusiasts) are still out here looking for cars with driving engagement. The FL5, Miata, and BRZ all engage the driver in different ways with the FL5 obviously being the most practical. Glad Honda has kept what makes their cars so engaging to drive (fantastic inputs, engine character, driver engagement) while still offering great practicality & reliability. Hoping I like it for the long term.
  • @GoodOleGrant
    Haven’t commented in a while but the long form videos are incredible especially when you and the team talk about where the car market is today in the past or present during your car rides. You all still share your honest opinion without trying to appease the car industry executives or companies and thats what makes the video worth watching in my opinion.