Windows Arm PCs could be SO much better

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Publicado 2024-07-19
What's going on with Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite 'Mac mini killer' Dev Kit?

I take a look at the current Windows on Arm landscape, and discuss what I think Microsoft and Qualcomm should do to make Snapdragon X truly 'Elite' among Arm platforms.

Some of the videos and resources I mentioned:

- Qualcomm Dev Kit Announcement: www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2024/05/qualcomm-ac…
- Qualcomm Dev Kit on Arrow: www.arrow.com/en/products/c8380-12c-mp-32g/thunder…
- Ampere Altra Dev Platform: www.ipi.wiki/products/ampere-altra-developer-platf…
- Level1Techs Microsoft/Qualcomm Dev Video:    • Microsoft & Qualcomm -- Blame for Bro...  
- Box86 Compatibility List: box86.org/app/
- ptitSeb's latest Box86 game demo video:    • New Box64 v0 3 0 Released, AVX & AVX2...  
- Portal 2 bug with 128-core CPUs: github.com/ValveSoftware/portal2/issues/367
- Linux on Snapdragon X:    • ...but you might not | Linux on X Eli...  
- Linaro's work on Linux for Snapdragon X: www.linaro.org/blog/qualcomm-and-linaro-enable-lat…
- Charbax's video from Embedded World 2024:    • Linux on Snapdragon X Elite Laptop wi...  
- My previous video on gaming on the ADLINK Dev Workstation:    • 128-core MONSTER Arm PC: faster than ...  

"Paid promotion" disclaimer: I was not paid anything to make this video, but some of the equipment I show in the video (namely, the ADLINK workstation and Ampere Altra Max CPU) were provided over a year ago with no obligations attached. I still like to disclose when I show any equipment I didn't personally pay for, because that lets you, the viewer, adjust for any potential bias that may come through.

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Contents:

00:00 - Where's the Snapdragon Dev Kit?
00:44 - Marketing vs reality
03:14 - Arm is amazing (on Linux)
04:08 - Gaming on Arm (on Linux)
05:31 - Should you buy an Arm HEDT instead?
06:23 - We need something better
07:39 - Maybe Linux is the answer?
08:21 - Dear Microsoft, Dear Qualcomm

Todos los comentarios (21)
  • @kerimgueney
    Holy crap. The fact that you could hook up a 4070 to an ARM CPU and actually run Doom is amazing. Linux is incredible.
  • @DJRobSunset
    It is insane, how snapdragon just can’t get dev kits out. They just set this up for disaster.
  • @Vatharian
    > ARM doesn't have Windows device drivers > people don't use it > dev kits not available > devs can't write drivers because no hardware > ARM doesn't have Windows device drivers Honestly, at this point, Qualcomm should hand out devkits for free. It should have been doing that for a YEAR already.
  • @JoelKalich
    That Linux>Windows thumbnail hits hard this morning specifically...
  • @calicomorgan2408
    I put Linux Mint Cinnamon on my surface laptop 2 because, with NOTHING on it, it was struggling to run windows. It's like a dream laptop now. It's my first Linux home device and it's snappy as hell and everything just makes sense. I can't wait to try it on a newer machine one day.
  • @zimbu_
    You're my favorite Ampere gaming influencer, Jeff.
  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    WIndows ARM PCs could be so much better, but Jeff's content has already reached perfection.
  • @alliejr
    Most underrated the real genius of M1 which was seamless real-time Intel code translation with higher performance than the Intel hardware it was replacing. Somehow Microsoft has lost the script on compiler-level technology.
  • @sandmanxo
    I can't say I really care about Windows on Arm. I've already decided to go full time on Linux on my next computer anyways. After Windows 10 support goes away I'll only use Windows for the one server I admin and my work laptop.
  • @argonthepanda8720
    I would absolutely love socketed ARM chips for consumer desktop space. It would be so fun to build an SFF HTPC or a server
  • @jfolz
    Funny how the turns tabled. ARM drivers for Linux, but nothing for Windows.
  • @alexlandherr
    At 1:33, having worked an internship with writing setup instructions for and testing VMs on Apple silicon I really appreciated the power and relatively good battery life.
  • @aarocka11
    This is kind of funny, considering that a bunch of windows machines are bricked right now due to a botched update involving some security software.
  • @confusedbeard69
    Tuxedo with TuxedoOS is working with Qualcomm and has their own Snapdragon Linux PC's coming, TuxedoOS will also work with current Snapdragon Elite X laptops so it's actually looking good.
  • @vincei4252
    I'm shocked Cloud Strike allowed you to post this video.
  • @gunayorbay
    I remember having absolutely no luck with Wacom drivers with WoA on the 2023 dev kit, and later found out it just works with linux. As long as there is a proper kernel that is.
  • @metacob
    Windows is showing ads to paying customers. That's the kind of thing that companies do when they have to tell shareholders how they are going to squeeze more money out of their customers every quarter. Just a little preview of what's to come for Raspberry Pi...
  • @tablettablete186
    I didn't know NVIDIA already had functional GeForce drivers for ARM (I even knew this CPU). This is soooo cool!!!
  • @dinckelman
    Microsoft’s biggest competition are themselves. The industry moves on, and they are trying to latch onto anything that would make them money for the month
  • @MeepMu
    "These laptops would probably run better without Windows". And grass is green and the sky is blue.