being a hater and the overexposure paradigm

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Published 2024-05-29
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0:00 - intro
8:13 - is criticism dead?
19:10 - media illiteracy
25:26 - hating popular things
32:02 - being a woman

All Comments (21)
  • I went to art school. Where your art is constantly critiqued by classmates and teachers. I almost wish everyone had to take at least one class like this. Because you learn how to critique a piece without being a total asshole. There’s a tactful way to go about it. And the internet can’t do that. At all.
  • @kiera6646
    I think this goes hand-in-hand with the rise of anti-intellectualism. Children aren't being taught to read phonics now and are instead reliant on context clues and memorization of common words. In other words, the next generation is being taught to consume without thinking independently. Criticism, even when it's "mean" or "being a hater" is still really necessary.
  • @marycollins848
    Telling people, especially women, to be nice to each other or my favorite, not "tear each other down" is akin to telling women to shut up. Criticism is important.
  • @lardyG
    Genuine criticism and realistic expectations are essential for quality products. People have to admit they are unsatisfied with something to want change.
  • i dont get when people say "if you dont have a nice thing to say, dont say it" like??? writing a bad review is legitimate, especially if it is consistent. people confuse insulting an author/creator with criticizing the work 🧍🏻‍♀️I'm on goodreads a lot and I don't know how many times I've seen authors bitterly take bad reviews and bashing who wrote them, just because they weren't praising their books ☠️
  • @theisadiaries
    when I say “let people enjoy things” I mean let’s not poke fun at or bully people (especially online) because they have a hobby/are a fan of something that you are not. I think that phrase though has kind of lost meaning because there’s such a difference between criticism of a work/concept and making fun of someone/ a group of people.
  • @crumpet55
    It is actually really interesting that we have a "white boy of the month" roster, and when we get bored, or another 25-35 year old guy does a press tour for a big film or show, we just drop and move on and nothing else is expected because there's an understanding of the industry, but with female celebrities, a villainous picture has to be painted to justify "throwing them away". I think it almost goes back to your Marylin video where you mentioned the public's inability to distinguish who she was as a celebrity and who she was as a person. The approach to men is much more relaxed, but with women its personal, everything is intentional, what they're doing directly reflects what they think about the people who watch them. It's a similar cycle to wbotm but much more hostile. Weird.
  • @Jenny-nm5dt
    Ayo Edebiri (pronounced Ed-eb-rie) said in a Vanity Fair video from 8 days ago that that is why she's no longer posting on Letterboxd. She's a comedian and people take it too seriously and personally.
  • @denpa_chan
    hi! i know you probably won't see this, but the reason that "reviews" on most media outlets are listicles, recaps, or positive thoughts is because outlets want to remain on PR lists. i work in music journalism atm, and we are not allowed to write actual criticisms, meaning most of the team opts to summarize the song and its inspirations. we can't write anything negative, because it means potentially being blacklisted by PR teams and not being allowed to listen to embargoed music. opinion columnist roles require at least 7 years of experience in the industry, and are usually focused on local issues or restaurants, rather than pop culture. surprisingly, it's not just bending over backwards for SEO-- if that were the case, the articles themselves would at least be somewhat honest. on many applications for other copywriting roles, companies list that you must write in their "voice" in order to continue with the application process, which typically means mind-numbing glowing reviews for something that the writer might have strong feelings about, one way or the other. honest coverage in most publications is, quite frankly, dead, leaving many journalists to attempt freelancing through substack pages and the like, which is so competitive and overinflated that it's difficult to get by doing just that.
  • @elliebarker1633
    There's two types of 'haters'. There's people who hop onto a bandwagon or feel like they need to hate on something or someone in order to 'humble' them simply because they don't like seeing someone else be celebrated and appreciated for their work especially if they personally didn't like it. Then there are 'haters' who have genuine and constructive criticism to give and aren't just doing it because they hate someone or want to bring them down because seeing someone fail brings them a sense of comfort with their own failures. Too many people on tiktok and insta don't have any genuine criticism to give and lack media literacy thus giving a bad name to true critics who genuinely love the medium- whether it is film, music, etc.- that they are critiquing.
  • @renaelizette
    Intellectual criticism is dead. People always respond defensive as if you’re attacking them personally. I wrote a book review once on a biography of this famous artist. And although I criticized the BOOK, the fans went on to accuse me of plainly hating their favorite artist. That’s why if I don’t like the book I’d rather not make a review about it. The internet scares me.
  • @averyjeanne
    My biggest issue with online reviews is that it feels like 90% of negative reviews are talking about how a piece of media is morally bad, instead of actually criticism. It feels like people have no room for nuance. Instead of just disliking something, these reviews have to prove they are morally superior than everyone else.
  • @st4r_glrl5
    The whole thing about how the media is "getting sick" of a lot of popular women today or just successful women as a general reminds me of how in an interview Margot Robbie came out and spoke about how she felt as though people were getting tired of her after Barbie and all that. And a lot of others brought up the point of how a woman will be very talented so get casted in a few movies in the span of a year and after those two movies or maybe even albums, the public will already be "sick" or "tired" of her. But then there's men such as Leonardo Dicaprio, Tom Cruise, and Brad Pitt who are men that are literally in EVERYTHING and not only that but they've also been around for such a long time, but you rarely ever see people complaining about them being in too much. You usually only see them receiving praise for their talent and ability to do multiple shows and movies in a year. It might be reading into it too much but it truly just feels like rooted misogyny in the brains of many. Also, to be honest, I'd much rather see Margot Robbie in 10 films a year then Leonardo Dicaprio.
  • i feel like social media pressures everyone to have 100% rock solid opinions over everything. its completely fine to be like "this was how it read to me" or even just "i dont get it❤️". like film studies classes ive taken straight up pause at several points for in depth discussion and basically require rewatching outside of class.
  • @ArtichokeHunter
    In an extremely niche internet community, my sibling wrote a tactfully critical (not 1-star) review of a game. The author of the game then gave all of my sibling's own work 1 star ratings immediately (no way he played the games). It sucks when people are trying to treat others as adults and they can't do the same.
  • @cait6811
    I feel we always forget that someone not liking something doesn’t mean you can’t still like it or enjoy it - we don’t have to take it personally. I love Dune, my partner HATES it. Him hating it doesn’t mean I can’t still enjoy it, and me enjoying it doesn’t mean he can’t hate it. We can just be okay with that, I dunno. If something feels really personal to me, I just won’t engage with content on it until I’m in a place to engage on it. But I also don’t engage on social media anyways so I dunno lol
    Great video! Really poignant topic for the time!
  • @user-rf1op3uh6n
    I remember Mike Tyson once said something along the lines of "people get way too comfortable talking shit on the internet, before the internet people used to get punched saying shit like that"