The lost throws of Daito ryu Aikijujutsu 大東流合気柔術の投技
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Publicado 2022-01-27
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Your channel is a jewel. As a striker based martial artist everytime I see you covering old techniques is so easy to understand ways to incorporate those techniques and learn about the value of shadow wrestling like taiji.
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Learned Hakko-Ryu along side Karate. It wasn’t competitive either. After I switched to Judo and BJJ I started trying out the stuff I learned in Randori, I was surprised that it’s works pretty well with some minor modifications.
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I was lucky enough to be Kondo sensei's uke on a couple of occasions, wonderful teacher with wonderful technique. The difference in style between the differing Daito Ryu schools is vast. If you ever choose to train Daito Ryu do your research and choose your school carefully. There are some very dubious schools out there.
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As an aikidoka i think it's time to bring it back for Daito ryu Aikijutsu and even Aikido
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Great point. People are quick to say styles "don't work", but usually it comes down to the environment. Even aikido had sparring back in the day. Sure Ueshiba might have gotten mad about it but not only were his early students skilled martial artists in their own right, sparred in the dojo roughly and called his dojo the "hell dojo", but were outright street brawlers always looking to "test" their skills. Reading about those times it's night and day compared to a typical modern day aikido dojo and I could full well believe dojos back then churned out people who were tough as nuts. If you look at aikido teachers today they're all fat, but look at the photos of the students and teachers back then. OSensei was ripped and strong as an ox. Times have changed hugely, and along with it training methodologies. You can't run a hell dojo now and expect people to show up. It's a different era.
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I practice daito ryu and this video is actually really cool. Daito Ryu is hands down a very complex style. It bases all of these principles on Kuzushi (off balancing your opponent) with fluid movements. Manipulating his on coming energy. I'm still struggling with that part lol
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I remember watching a Daito Ryu footage and the master demonstrated an armbar technique, the kind that you see in Judo and BJJ. Thank you for sharing ☺️.
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I have been following this channel and it is very good to see how it has been deciphered that BJJ is a subset of mainly Judo techniques, nothing new under the sun. In addition, many judo masters from very ancient times demonstrated the superiority of JuJutsu and later judo over other martial arts in real combat. again nothing new under the sun. I have also seen how in several videos it is mentioned that some techniques such as kata guruma come from European wrestling, which is not true, it is just ignorance of true and very old traditional jujutsu schools in Japan and their scrolls. Kata Guruma comes from Taki otoshi, which is to lift an opponent over our shoulders and let him fall in free fall, releasing him and withdrawing from below him so that he falls into the void. In this video you can see the Japanese teacher who jumps in the air and puts his opponent in his guard, makes him fall on his back and later mounts him. this is typical of another very old JuJutsu technique that is in the scrolls and is called Fubi. from where in addition you could also heel lock the opponent as a variant or henka of the technique. Our school is recording a hundred traditional self-defense techniques from the true scrolls that will show how many of the techniques used by the different Martial Arts are taken from techniques in the scrolls of traditional Japanese schools. In addition, many schools are teaching self-defense with fundamental errors and in a very basic way, which in a real case would not work on the street or at least that same technique would put the executor at risk against the opponent. They seem excellent when you see them, but with few technical foundations, which surprise an initiate but make it clear to an expert that they are poorly made. Let's remember that the techniques were developed for battlefields where the terrain conditions and number of people fighting were very adverse for a poorly executed technique without considering many aspects external to the technique itself. Today teachers are also praised who supposedly have revolutionized JiuJitsu or No Gi with leg locks, again on my channel I have uploaded as in 2003 to 2005 already in our schools we taught leg lock techniques that are typical of the traditional schools of jujutsu, and my Master always told us, when an opponent is strong standup , attack his legs and finish him off. On the other hand, I want to mention that JiuJitsu or JuJutsu is Japanese, not American, Indian, Brazilian, etc. Organizations are from different countries, but I haven't seen so far any techniques that have been invented outside of Japanese scrolls. It is true that the original JuJutsu has been influenced by other nations, but as we know it today and how it was developed, structured and passed through generations in Japan, it is a unique system typical of Japan. Mr. Chadi, I congratulate you for your excellent work and I hope you continue on this path of clarifying the true history of JuJutsu and Judo and other modern variants that have not invented anything and that take advantage of some baseless stories. Excuse my English, because I speak Spanish. Best regards... Máximo Arias 5°Dan JiuJitsu .
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A big difference between a Koryu and Gendai sport technique, Kata Garuma for example, you will notice that in Jujutsu / Aikijutsu, the wrist and or elbow will be rotated and locked when thrown for real. Same with Ippon seionage. The textbook throw and applications, are fast and effective, but if you can rotate and lock the wrist or elbow ( 2 arms in this video) in the process, severe injury will result. These combat applications are still VERY needed in todays world , especially for military. CQB is no joke. Great Video! Train hard and be safe 👍💮
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Daito ryu for life!
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Most jujitsu schools did far more than just wrist locks. And most people don’t realize that jujitsu schools in the past did spar. But sparing the way they did would be unacceptable today. Severe injuries and deaths were allowed and happened. Thank
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This is one of the reasons I like older books in terms of showing older versions of techniques. These throws aren't lost as much as we've altered how we throw people so as to reduce their injuries. I remember practicing with a Tai Chi Northern Praying Mantis Kung Fu gentleman and he showed me the first throw with the locked arms; this was supposed to act as a way to "Safely" disable the attacker and break their face on the pavement. This type of Kung Fu relies a lot on breaking body structure and balance, which may not be direct Kuzushi, but shares a lot of the spirit.
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Dude, ur channel is a treasure, thx for vids!
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I think the American occupation of Japan after WWII severely damaged Japanese martial arts. Martial training was outlawed by the occupying army and so either the martial art practice was lost or converted to a cultural and spiritual practice without any combat. Today though, anyone learning the techniques can train them however they want. Any practitioner who wants to use martial arts techniques in a self defense situation should train the techniques against a resisting opponent after mastering them on a passive Uke.
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Nice. Thank you. With the firemans throw like that, in that era long swords were still carried. That version appears it'd still allow throwing with a long blade vs the newer sport version.
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I recently saw a Tang Soo Do self-defense (VHS) video that came out back in the 1980s and one of the techniques was a defense against a rear two handed choke where the defender performs this throw 1:10. Caught me by surprise since in Tang Soo Do, we're not really known for our throws.
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All martial arts relected and grew out of their time and place in history, culture, politics, decorum, and geography and changed with advances in weaponry. Now they are mostly preserved as historical artifacts. Going to the ground in guard works on a mat in one on one sport situations but not so well on concrete especially if it's one against a few. Like wrestling- penetrating for a double leg works well on a mat but banging ones knee on concrete? Not so much. That's why the standing throws of judo are so effective. No need to go to the ground. Make the bad guy go to ground hopefully in great pain and unable to continue. Use the throws that cause their legs and ankles to collide with the hard floor so they can't walk to continue the aggression. As Tim Larkin and Marc MacYoung preach - if we severely injure or kill someone in a fight we could have avoided, we will end up on the wrong side of the bars and sued on top of that.
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Another great video from Chadi !
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Excellent Video Chadi!
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