What can lessons be learnt from Archie Battersbee case?

I would still like to know why the Southend MP thought it acceptable to have her picture taken draped across this little boys bed whilst he was lay with tubes and wires coming out of every part of his little body. The mum also thought this acceptable as she was with her and lay across him doing the thumbs up sign. Poor Archie being exposed in such a way. RIP little boy.

Keep kids away from social media?

Well the parents are going to write a story for the newspapers obviously it's all about money at the end of the day .

They should not be calling the people who've only cared for & kept Archie alive (against all odds) barbaric & executioners; they are absolutely not. Shameless rhetoric, they may be grieving but some of their comments on his treatment have been disgraceful. Rip Archie.

The lesson that should be learned (but won't be) is that somehow we need to stop morons having children.

His dad has been remarkably silent over the whole affair. Probably didn’t want to be involved in the whole sad pantomime!

they talk about medical ethics but not a single word on parental ethics and letting children have mobile phones and access to tiktok. the apparent reason why he tried to choke himself in the first place.

I can see both sides on this issue. My only question, however, is would the parents’ wishes have been given more weight by the doctors if they had been famous celebrities or high ranking politicians? Methinks things may have been a little bit different in those circumstances, given that we so often see ‘important’ people granted greater privileges than ordinary people.

What about his quality of life? He would have had none, being brain stem dead, it's as simple as that. He would have been on machines all the time, once the brain dies that is it. Desperate parents want to keep their child with them, which any parent would of course, but IMO they were letting him suffer by prolonging this 'treatment'. The body curls in on itself when people are in this state so I don't believe he was gripping a hand. Ultimately it should be the professionals who are looking after people like poor Archie who make the decision, not the courts, they are not doctors, but only after at least 4 independent studies by professionals have been done separately. Fly high bonny lad, you suffer no more. Also, why has the mother changed her story 4 times to investigators as to how she found Archie on that fateful day?

Weird that there's almost no mention of the most important lessons to be learnt from Archie Battersbee case. Smartphones and applications like TikTok are not safe or benign, and responsible parents should not allow young children access to them. While some screen time on a tablet etc is fine, it must be limited, it must have content filters enabled, and parents must monitor what their children are watching and searching for.

We don't see a dr now for over two years so I don't take phone calls after I got put in hospital so I will look after my self xxxxx

How can these parents criticise the NHS in any way shape or form when they have put in such effort since April looking after their child , when they themselves had obviously no care as to what the 12yr old was watching and being influenced by on the internet ?????

The case of Archie is heartbreaking and desperately sad, added to the potential cause being a TikTok game gone wrong. Poor Archie would not have had a quality of life to be lived. His parents quality of life would also diminish with time as he got older. Letting go is the hardest thing of all. His parents are very brave. Archie is at peace. Happy memories will live. Very sad.

When did people stop trusting doctors and other medical specialists? I know they are not infallible, but they spend years studying and practising medicine, and if they say that a patient will not respond to further treatment, it is for valid reasons. This decision involved multiple senior staff and consultants at Royal London Hospital, and it was also examined by the courts. We've sadly reached a point where uneducated people think they know more than a trained and experienced specialist just because they read about something on their Facebook feed. In 2018 it was estimated that there were between 24,000 and 64,000 people on life support. Imagine if each of those families decided they know better than the doctors.

In my experience the clinicians will have given this child every chance to live. Life support is not removed on a whim.

Social media would be a start.

Another case of neglect

Yes, doctors cannot be forced to give care in case they think it’s of no benefit, although why should they have the right to refuse the patient’s transfer to structures that are willing to give that care? This, was the last act they refused to let the child go. That went further away from their autonomous right to decide what care they could or would provide: they decided that nobody else could. But the case went beyond this: because multiple judges decided alongside with the hospital, and in this case it’s been the State (+ the European court) as a whole which refused any kind of care, even if privately provided. That goes far beyond the right of the individual doctor to provide care or not.

It's worrying that children can be involved with this sort of game on the internet and their parents know nothing about it.

It won't be long until the media turns against the mother. She seems to love talking to the media but to slag off the doctors and nurses who have kept her child breathing for many months is a big no no . If it wasn't for them he would have stopped breathing months ago.