The Clone Wars Era Has A Massive Flaw

4:05 That is incorrect. The comic was released in 2015, 2 years before the Rebels episode which came out in 2017. So in reality it was the Rebels writers who were spiteful since they were the ones to say that this was the last queen egg on Geonosis, which wasn't really confirmed by the Vader comics.

Heard a fan theory that the Clone Wars TV show is republic propaganda which is why it is so one-sided. It is also why every episode starts like a WWII newsreel because IT IS a wartime newsreel.

The episode of Clone Wars where we get to see the "Separatist"'s parliament and there perspective on the war was one of the most memorable episodes of Clone Wars. I'm glad it was made. And yes, it would have been great to see more of that.

Honestly, a story from the perspective of a separatist would fix a lot of these problems, since usually we tend to root for the main characters. If done right, the audience will become fond of the Separatist hero and by extension, gain a more nuanced view of their cause.

The problem is the boring cop out of "oh it's just made for kids" or "star wars is for 12 year olds" as if that is an excuse for lazy writing. Republic Commando did the separatist faction justice by making them terrifying from a soldier's perspective.

I think they also give unfair treatment to the battle droids compared to the clones. They parallel each other, yet the sentience of the droids is kind of downplayed despite the fact that they are clearly shown to have it.

The depiction of the CIS in Filioni's Clone Wars is the main reason why I personally don't like that show. I think Filoni totally squandered all potential at showing the moral nuances and shades of gray in the Separatist movement in favor of just portraying them as mustache twirling villains and I just can't get past that. Even the "Heroes On Both Sides" episode basically portrays even sympathetic Separatists as just manipulated NPCs with no bearing on the story. Hell, the Separatists in the movies alone came off way more humanized than they did in the Clone Wars show, like Dooku's tendency to mercy and Grievous' staunch loyalty and admiration for Dooku. Great video, you've earned a sub!

I always thought of a story where a once republic admiral turned to the separatists, and after the rise of the empire used their navy to be a bastion of rebellion. You could even write in the return of the malevolence, explaining why the empire hasn't crushed them, or at least not yet. And this possible Admiral could harbour rebellious clones and what-not.

I have to admit it hadn’t occurred to me that there has to be a wealth of story potential waiting on the Separatist side of the Clone Wars. Excellent video. Earned my sub.

The difference is Palpatine. Palpatine wanted to turn the Republic into the Empire, he wanted to set up the Separatists to fail. The majority of Separatists were fine, but manipulations ensured most of their leadership was evil to make them hateable and make the faction unstable. Even if Palpatine dropped dead of a heart attack half way through the war when the Separatists had the upper hand, the CIS was doomed to fail because all of it's leadership was deliberately picked to be shitty, selfish, and greedy. We've gotten expanded material post-Clone Wars the show mainly, that has blurred those lines a lot. Bad Batch with them saving the one CIS leader, meeting a former Separatist on Dooku's throne world and seeing the pillaging he did to his own people, etc. Plus like you mentioned, seeing a lot of the Separatists turn into Rebels later. Once the CIS leadership was decapitated, the only people left were the actual idealists who had a point and wanted to do good. And they instantly started trying to worm out from under the Empire's boot and form the Rebellion.

Another think that annoys me quite alot as a Star Wars ship fan is that we barely get any cool CIS fan designs, there is the Allocator-class and Overseer-class which are both amazing but super underdeveloped, it seems like all the other faction particularily the Empire just gets 10 000 new ship designs that look exactly like another Star Destroyer but with some dumb feature. Amazing video bro!

Honestly, I always found it weird and unfortunate that the CIS was almost universally the weakest part of the Clone Wars show and whenever I rewatched some episodes starring the Seperatists as the main antagonists, I was dissapointed with the one-note, one-dimensional portrail of the charakter associated with them. Your video however is great in highlighting major problems with the faction. Love it a lot and definatly deserves a subscription ^^

how do we have a star wars youtuber that sounds like george lucas and nobody talks about it

I couldn´t agree more. And it hurts more when you think the only time they tried to show separatists in a nuanced way, the "Heroes on both sides arc", it was wonderfull episode, which also was very important for Ashoka.

Personally, if you held my feet to the fire and told me to pick a side, I would have to say that I'm pro-Separatist. All they wanted at the end of the day was independence from a corrupt system that had either ignored or exploited them for a thousand years.

I heard originally we were going to revisit Raxus in the clone wars in the unfinished dark disciple arc we also would’ve seen count Dooku make a speech on the republic and Jedi’s hypocrisy that speech is on YouTube for you to find

I don’t think it’s Disney to blame on “dropping the ball” when these Clone Wars episodes were produced under George Lucas.

you did bring something up that i thought was good- (on the context of the writer who made the geonosian queen sterile) i think a lot of these older writers and fans who grew up with empire strikes back don’t like to accept that the prequel/clone wars era is awesome and that’s what most of the young fans are into now. I feel like they try everything in their power to make the galactic empire era appeal to us but it just will never be the clone wars no matter what they do. trying to kill off the clone wars is a terrible idea

You dont get a galaxy wide revolt unless the goverment has some... issues, I think saying that of the people who in part lead the galaxy into chaos are mostly good is a bit iffy. I hate to say it, the best starwars storys you will hear now will come from GMs running starwars games, myself I played an grumpy CIS officer during the time of the early empire and we had a great adventure. Remember all, Raxus will rise again!"

I think this perspective is only true if you ignore the EU tbh. Whilst yes the Empire is still more fleshed out than the CIS, in Canon at least, the Empire is portrayed as almost comically evil, and Thrawn is not portrayed positively by Filoni in Rebels. The main issue with how the antagonists in both the Empire and the CIS stems from Dave Filoni. Prior to them, the CIS, and to a lesser extent, the Empire, were generally portrayed in more nuanced ways, or at least, the Republic wasn't clearly good. The Rebels however have always been portrayed as the 'good' side of the war, and any lore mentioning terrorists like the Partisans either tries to deliberately distance those groups from the main Rebellion or they just ignore them later on, like with Berch Teller's group in the Tarkin novel, which reveals that the early Rebels were actually shielding themselves from the Empire by deliberately hiding behind civilian populations, usually pretending to be CIS holdouts whilst actually being old Republic Loyalists, and then striking out in blatant terror attacks (since Teller's group was blowing up unarmed repair facilities and civilian contractors, not just military targets)