The Great Climate Con | Alex Epstein | EP 312

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Publicado 2022-12-08
Dr Jordan B Peterson and Alex Epstein discuss the undeniable need for fossil fuels, the toxic underlying nihilism of the “climate concerned” left, the need for balance between conservation and human progress, and the unexplored worth of wild potential.

Alex Epstein is a philosopher and energy expert who argues that "human flourishing" should be the guiding principle of energy and environmental progress. He is the author of the new bestselling book Fossil Future: Why Global Human Flourishing Requires More Oil, Coal, and Natural Gas—Not Less. He is also the creator of EnergyTalkingPoints.com—a source of powerful, well-referenced talking points on energy, environmental, and climate issues.

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(0:00) coming up
(1:28) Intro
(3:36) Fossil Future
(6:17) The metric for success
(12:28) Nature viewed as a god, Fusion
(16:49) Hostility toward impact
(21:33) How the climate cult evolved
(24:09) What drives the anti-capitalist ethos?
(30:30) The planet has gotten 15 percent greener
(33:20) Conceptions of Earth
(35:24) The world without humanity
(38:48) The underlying Nihilism
(43:00) Worth of man to the Left
(45:14) The toxicity of modern environmentalism
(50:35) Moral monopoly, Bjørn Lomborg
(59:35) Climate Denier, propaganda
(1:05:00) 50+ years, a complete failure as a movement
(1:07:20) Keeping the third world poor
(1:12:10) Actual concern for the poor
(1:15:00) Climate Reparations
(1:16:30) Moral Aesthetics
(1:20:10) Importance of conservation
(1:23:30) Existential guilt, sufficient value
(1:28:03) Delicate nurture dogma, wild potential

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  • @viscache1
    As a physicist who has retired early and become a farmer I am deeply concerned about this current trend towards the destruction of agricultural productivity. On a 10 acre farm I produce enough food to supply a complete nutritious diet for over 100 people. I grow my own animal feed and grow animals and just 1 acre of green vegetables and with planning and vertical farming this is enough land to feed my family and to sell to purchase the energy I need to run our tractor and heat our home. Enough to eat and enough to trade and now this administration is seeking to shut down the ability of all farmers to be self sufficient. We even produce our own electrical energy on our property and are converting half our tractors to run on electric motors. What they are doing is not JUST suicide, it’s MURDER
  • @trojan1512
    The most thought provoking answer to the debate came from a 16 yo girl who was interviewed by an environmental reporter with one of the most disgusting questions you could ask a young women. Would she consider not having children to save the planet. Her response was breathtaking. "Yes, she said, I have considered that, but to take that action in isolation would be pointless" "It would have to be done by all women, to be fair, and that would lead to the extinction of the human species". "And if the human species did not exist, does the environment matter?."
  • Dr.Peterson imo your dissolution from teaching at the university was 'manifest destiny' ; you're reaching far more people now, and doing an immeasurable service to a countless number of people. Your lectures and forums will continue to aid a world in need. Blessings to you.
  • What Alex Epstein is saying in this discussion with Jordan B. Peterson reminds me very much of what Patrick Moore has been saying on several occasions about Greenpeace and the reasons he had for leaving this organisation after seven years. He tells us he found it impossible to remain an active supporter of Greenpeace when it became obvious that fewer and fewer Greenpeace activists had any training in the natural sciences and began to regard human beings as the ones that were destroying the planet.
  • @impurfekt
    Agree or disagree, having these kinds of discussions in an open and uncensored forum is absolutely vital for the future of humanity.
  • One of the most remarkable events in my public state university education was being assigned Epstein's "The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels" in an Energy Economics class. For all the general failings of modern academia, I think back very fondly on my university for allowing a professor to present this book as a contrast to everything else we were discussing around climate change and fossil fuels. Been following the author ever since, and it makes me happy to see Jordan getting to know him.
  • Anti Human is a perfect description of this criminal act being waged on us.
  • 01:20:10 As someone with a keen interest in natural forests I learned this lesson on my MSc course when we visited Tunisia and I met real poverty for the first time. The best way to use my talents as a Geoscientist was to work in the oil industry, to discover more fossil fuel, and thereby help to reduce the pressure on woodland destruction for basic fuel needs.
  • @danielcraig9666
    I remember making this case to some 18 year old back in 2014. She thought I was a lunatic, told me to "educate myself", accused me of being an oil company shill. I asked her if the world is so ready to be destroyed what was she going to do about it? She looked at me with shocked, wide eyes. Would she give up all of her power consumption? The phone she was holding? Lights? Cars? Her only solution was to not change her ways but wonder why we can't use solar or some such other thing. Somebody else was supposed to do something while she pretended to be worried. It was PURELY about trying to sound/feel morally superior with ZERO actual effort to change something herself.
  • @1amilliman
    'If I can make you hungry and afraid I own you'..Voltaire, in a nut shell.
  • @jpii8468
    Anytime the tech overlords put a disclaimer on a video or post, you know the truth is being spoken 💯
  • @groblerful
    We should feel no guilt in fully enjoying the free gift of life we have been given, just gratitude.
  • It’s deeply disappointing that the people calling for a cull of the human population never lead by example
  • @Wolfman7870
    These are ESSENTIAL conversations Dr. Peterson. My thanks for your hard work.
  • Almost EVERYTHING in today's world is morally inverted... and it's NOT by accident. Outstanding conversation!
  • @vigsbond
    I have listened to Alex Epstein’s videos before and I love his clarity of thought and the non-partisan approach to the energy conversation. He has provided a ton of data in his presentations and comes across as a well balanced thinker . I am glad that Dr.Peterson has invited him to his platform and given him wider exposure. Kudos to you Dr.JBP 😊
  • @jjb653
    This is my second time watching this because it is so fascinating to see the peeling away of the lies being propagated the climate nuts.