RPG:You make the call!
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Publicado 2013-08-12
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I'd consider a bonus for the 'ooh! shiny and quirky' aspect of the performance. but would still think a will save could be made by audience members not caring about the performance or who may be purposefully trying to see through the illusion to see what he alone sounded like? (also I love Mr Driscolls response "4x louder and/or 4x noisier, not 4x better or 4x fuller.")
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The funniest part is, that I know there's no way you could possibly know just how absolutely funny and plausible that really is. We are the gaming group coming to you from Woodstock NY/Ulster County so maybe you knew that and just took a guess, not sure but it's still hilarious! Honestly there is a lot of rockers and there kids here, some kids are stars themselves like Uma or Liz Tyler while others are my neighbor Justin or Rachael. Really funny, hits home in way you could not have known of.
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For the first question, I'd say the audience WILL save would only apply to belief in the reality of the sound. Illusions which affect multiple targets don't just go away when a person successfully disbelieves it, however, the magical nature and lack of substance are then made known. If the audience already knows that the aural hallucination of GHOST SOUND is part of the "show" then they would probably automatically save, thus removing this from the issues to be dealt with.
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As to the ability to generate specific musical compositions which are aimed to impress and achieve the same effect as using the performance skill with an instrument, I would use a performance skill check with the quality of sound not neccessarily being at all improved by the number of different sounds, though volume be increased at the caster's discretion. In otherwords, K.I.S.S, performance check straight up.
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If the spell can simulate a dragon roaring, it should be able to effectively simulate a chorus of human singers. I would say any sound the caster has heard in the past would be fair game to reproduce. He might have to know the lyrics of the song ahead of time. For the originality of the thought, and considering it is just a cantrip, I would suggest a +2 enchantment bonus.
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I would use the first option: the perform check is the quality of the overall performance. For me, the cantrip is just a special effect, an addition to the performance. I believe the spells' intention is to create sound and not performing talent or enhance it. Your performer will not suddenly becomes better at performing, nor adding musicians necessarily enhance any musical performance. I consider his skill to be the limits of his performing ability, unless a spell raise that limit.
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Just now read previous comments... looks like they have already said it more succinctly than I could have.
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No bonus. While you could develop a show with illusory instruments to make it really cool, Ghost Sound by itself is roughly equivalent to using a backing track; nothing more or less. It is still really up to the primary performer to entertain the audience.
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Saying is that kid the son of a some rock star is an inside joke around these parts.
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DM should always always say "Yes, and..." His idea is not only original but a very cool way for him to have a bard like ability without actually being or filling that roll. Also based on the fact that he is asking the listener to allow themselves to be open to the music it sounds like he is not trying to get some kind of combat tactical advantage. I am not super familiar with Enchanters but I dont see how him wanting to do a performance act with really any situation breaks the game.
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so the caster would still roll a perform check ( since caster is creating the sound) i would allow the caster to roll a diplomacy check to tell npcs about the spell to see if he can sell his objective to them...
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I was not aware that you are playing D&D with David Lee Roths son
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Also, rather than actually answer the player's question, as a DM, I'd be reserving the right to avoid the difficult conundrums in life and simply have an NPC in the audience "accidentally" crit while flinging a turnip at him (even if he is the best performer, he can't please everyone... especially if it's the Abyssal Lord Yheenoghu deceptively polymorphed as a lively headbanging peasant fan/groupie).
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4x louder and/or 4x noisier, not 4x better or 4x fuller.
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I would offer no bonus at all. If, instead of a flute, he had chosen to make ghostly sounds, would you give him a bonus if he had been in a haunted house before? Or a bonus for chain rattling sounds if he had worked as a blacksmith? The sound produced is as accurate or beautifully played as he wants it to be. But the spell description is pretty clear, and I see no reason to offer a bonus based on the sounds the caster chooses to make.
