So is Disney Just Never Gonna Have a Real Villain Again?

Fun fact: The wolf was the character with the least screentime and yet, he stole the entire audience

Amazing how the Shrek franchise went from clapping back at Disney by incoprorating gross-out humor, innuendos, and pop culture references, to clapping back at Disney by including 3 compelling villains in 1 movie.

Tbh I also love how puss never defeated death, just postponed it. He accepted his fate that was sure to come at some point and death came to respect him and let him enjoy his last life. Disney could learn from having a undefeated but retreating and compelling villain

This video makes me think about how Coco had both generational trauma and a well-executed twist villain who was responsible for the family's generational trauma.

I feel like disney needs to understand not every movie needs a villain, but some movies need one.

big jack horner is such a good example of how to have a villain that's both extremely irredeemable and extremely entertaining

Cruella de Vil was literally just a upper class lady in a really expensive fur coat with a really nice car. Yet she still had such raw emotion and pure livid rage in her being that she's more intimidating to see on screen than a lot of comic book villains that can destroy planets. Just rewatch that chase scene from 101 dalmations and bask in how well they animated her pure rage.

villains arent just bad guys, they're plot devices that enhances the protagonists journey and development.

“Death is the personification of Puss’s anxieties.” YES. Yes. That’s how you make any villain freaking great. You take everything one character stands for, their weakness, flaws, fears, and then make the villain those things.

It's hillarious that Puss in Boots 2 has more good villains than the entire last 10 years of disney AND pixar films combined.

This is why i will forever praise The Hunchback of Notre Dame as a movie. It has a nuanced protagonist who is so fucked up from constant abuse that he struggles to do the right thing, and it has one of the nastiest, most monstrous, most downright irredeemable villains ever. Frollo is a hideously awful person. And his awfulness makes him a FANTASTIC villain. After he quite literally sings a song about how his disgusting thoughts were the fault of someone else (yikes), watching him get defeated by the one he systematically abused for years is so satisfying. Quasimodo wouldn’t have such a strong arc to his character without having such a horrific abuser in his life. Could you imagine if disney tried to tell this story without Frollo? It would be so empty.

I was initially taken aback by the fact that Jack Horner was a stereotypical one-dimensional villain. But then it hit me. He doesn't NEED to have some sad backstory or a twist reveal, Jack Horner is evil and he LIKES it. A lot of humor comes from just how much he enjoys being a villain.

I think Disney needs to realise having a villain isn’t a bad thing. Showing kids that bad people exist isn’t a bad thing, it’s important for them to grow up and realise that not everybody has your best interest at heart

Even though Tangle's mother Gothel isn't part of the classic Disney villains or Disney Renaissance villains, she's pretty evil to me.

This is also why both of the Sonic movies preformed so well. Its not only nostalgic. Its also well written and has an actually villain villain.

You know, I like the fact that Puss was unable to beat death. And it's not like he's as fearless as he was with 9 lives, he simply faced his fear which is why death immediately lost interest. Puss even breathed a sigh of relief when death let him go, showing that he still had his fear of death despite the bravado. He was glad that he's alive.

I miss when villains were evil because they were straight up just bad people, not simply "misguided"

6:35 "There are always going to be evil people in the real world." I think this right here is why we're all sorely missing the classic Disney villains of old. The whole "there's good in everyone" message kinda rings hollow in our world today, when a handful of billionaires are bleeding the rest of the world dry. We just want to escape into a fictional world where bad people get punished.

"I'm done pissing on the moon. Now i'm pissing on Disney's wishing star" -Dr. Eggman

It's crazy to me how Puss In Boots, of all things, came out of freaking nowhere and was so damn good it's making us question other franchises/animation studios. Big W for DreamWorks Edit: How does a positive comment on DreamWorks accomplishment devolve into a political argument? :(