Establishing Fine Art as a Religion of Purity: Reading Larry Shiner's The Invention of Art | Part 3

Published 2024-05-01
Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture.

Part one:    • Fine Art’s Expulsion of Craft and Sen...  
Part two:    • The Genius, Museum and Art vs Craft: ...  

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Chapter markers:
00:00 Biggest takeaways so far
05:27 19th century: modernist rhetoric and “Art“ as an independent realm
08:02 Finding the purest of the fine arts
10:30 Changing the meaning of “culture“
12:12 Art as religion
19:57 Pre-modernists and Roman frog eyes
24:17 The Saint and Martyr Syndrom
27:29 “The descent of the artisan“
34:41 Architecture: art or craft…?
41:49 The term “disinterestedness“
45:00 The final consolidation of “Art“
48:47 Photography: was it ever a threat?
55:40 Modernism 1890-1930
1:06:18 The 1930´s & representational styles
1:09:00 Modernism as “anti-totalitarian“
1:14:05 Repeating the art vs craft division
1:19:25 Post-Modernism as an alternative?
1:22:51 A people without identity & a third system of the arts

This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Öde Nerdrum and Jikke Gruwel.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.

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All Comments (9)
  • @BrunildaLibera
    I am so grateful for this full book review, it has been helping me a whole lot to navigate the Art world and not get damaged by it, in fact, makes me stronger and clearer to speak out to focus on rescuing human vitality and get rid of Art altogether. This channel has been an huge help in understanding the differences, to embrace the classical values, without hiding, nor resignating but to actually boldly embrace what i am doing,
  • @kelvinize
    I wish you guys would continue your beautiful work for decades to come. It's sad that this is the last video. Thank you for all the contributions you've given to true meaningful art.
  • @1k5uv13
    This was great, thanks for sharing!
  • Thank you for all the wonderful and inspiring conversations you’ve hosted it has been a powerful voice. You’ve helped me understand art (my own and others) in a more nuanced and deep way. I arrived to understand Nerdrum and Jan Ove’s use and meaning of kitch and as I went deeper into the cave with you all I gained a better understanding of why I have always like figurative painting and classical architecture.
  • @73elephants
    "People learned to accept..." -- this is indeed how art has been appreciated, or at least feigned to be appreciated, since the WWII.
  • @RDWstudio
    We need an alternative… thank you for this series of videos.
  • So infantile to "bleep" out certain figures' names, because one's ideology doesn't match with theirs.