Cyclical thinking, Discontinuity and Basic Human Stories | Jon White, Sturla Ellingvåg & Jan-Ove Tuv

Published 2024-04-02
Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Jon White from ‪@Crecganford‬ and Sturla Ellingvåg from ‪@VikingStories‬ to discuss the nature of myths.

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Chapter markers:
00:00 Thinking a-historically
03:33 From ritual to listening
08:48 Replacing pagan holidays and rituals
15:39 Changes in myths
22:26 Tactius' Germania, the Poetic Edda and the Kalevala
26:19 Sacred truths make stories last
33:14 Cut off from your traditions
39:28 Looking at history as a whole
44:17 A perfect product for corporate business?
48:36 Picking the shiny thing
52:32 Back to basic human stories
57:36 Participating in the story
1:02:58 Do what has worked before
1:05:46 Irony in eternal stories
1:07:18 Society after the cyclical disasters
1:13:18 Agriculture gives us cyclical myths
1:19:40 Recurring themes in myth

This episode featured Jon F. White, Jan-Ove Tuv & Sturla Ellingvåg and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.

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All Comments (8)
  • @Crecganford
    I thoroughly enjoyed this discussion, thank you for inviting me here.
  • @Jon1on
    What a great discussion! And I was kind of amazed to see this specific discussion pop up in my feed just weeks after I started writing a term paper on Steinbeck's "The Grapes of Wrath" and cyclical/linear time (Eliade, Hegel/Marx/Christianity &c.). What Jan-Ove said about great writers' use of repetition maps perfectly onto Steinbeck's novel, especially the final vignette immediately after the flood. This is the first time I've properly considered these matters, and suddenly I see it showing up everywhere. The mystic in me is inclined to say the stars have aligned, but I suppose profane coincidence is the more reasonable option as always.
  • @Cory99918
    ahh man, this is like a sort of Mt. Rushmore of guests on one show, good one ! :)) nice mix of the highest quality guests, and excellent topic, well done -- thank you :))
  • I can't be the only one who thought that was Nathan Fillion, right?