Why do we celebrate incompetent leaders? | Martin Gutmann | TEDxBerlin

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Published 2024-05-23
Management historian Martin Gutmann challenges us to rethink what great leadership looks like. While we tend to celebrate those with a proclivity for action and brash words, great leaders are often precisely those who don't need to generate excessive noise or activity. To make this point, Gutmann draws on contemporary research and historical examples, including the famed but disaster-prone Ernest Shackleton.

Martin Gutmann is a speaker, author, and researcher interested in how the past can shed new light on contemporary issues. He is a professor at the Lucerne School of Business, Switzerland. His most recent book is The Unseen Leader: How History Can Help Us Rethink Leadership: www.martingutmann.com/unseen

Martin has a Ph.D. in history from the Maxwell School at Syracuse University, USA, an eMBA from IE Business School, Spain, and higher education teacher’s training from Harvard University, USA and ETH Zurich, Switzerland. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

All Comments (21)
  • I’ve worked in IT my entire life, the people who’s infrastructure takes a dive and they end up pulling an all-nighter are celebrated, but if your infrastructure is always consistently working and there’s never any drama, you’re somehow ignored and treated as just an extra body when you’ve been the most reliable person there.
  • @revengebed
    Nobody ever gets credit for fixing problems that never happened.
  • @tiredperson6574
    "When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
  • @DigSamurai
    The end message is why my favorite Einstein quote is "a clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it in the first place"
  • @alangibb3806
    I have run several factories in the last 30 years and can't count the number of "action oriented managers" I have encountered (especially in sales). Invariably I have taken over under-performing production lines and been told that making the workers "work harder" is the key to success. After a year, or sometimes more, when the numbers are up, I have to explain that making people's jobs easier has been the key to the change.
  • @seth2390
    Lessons we learned: - speak more no matter what you say - walk around confidently - always acting like you are needed urgently and always on calls - paint everything as a crisis 👍🏻 thanks for the promotion
  • Something taught to me a long time ago: “Don’t confuse effort with results.”
  • @kater123bln6
    Had a supervisor who talked a lot with our team lead, did not support the team in any way and was only talking down to us to repeat what team lead already told us. She got promoted and I was puzzled why. I realized then exactly that, people who make noise and appear to be busy get rewarded, even if they had done nothing for the team.
  • @ysteinfjr7529
    Roald Amundsen is by no means forgotten in Norway. This guy Shackleton on the other hand is someone I barely have heard about.
  • It's not only about leadership. Any good professional will make his work look easy to an outsider.
  • An old upper management I once worked for said "Many times you don't know what jobs a good manager does until they don't do them."
  • @Indoor_Carrot
    His river example makes me think of soldiers we celebrate. We fixate on extreme examples of heroism but ignore the smaller things that made a huge difference. The men responsible for maintaining food and ammo to frontline troops are often forgotten but were invaluable.
  • @joeszpak2491
    This describes perfectly my 37 year career both with the Government and Contractor business I was in!!!!! When my company picked internal “Leaders” to speak at our leadership symposiums for the last 15 years, they picked people who were part of the root cause of a major issue who were then flooded with resources to become the “hero” to get through the self imposed crisis. Haha, ANYONE with unlimited support can get through a tough issue….most people don’t even stop to think about why the issue happened in the first place and who are the real leaders who consistently prevent them!
  • @Meower68
    The "noise" aspect is a variation on Dunning-Kruger. Someone who knows a little bit about a subject tends to publicly exhibit more confidence WRT that subject. Someone who genuinely knows about a subject tends not to seem particularly confident. They're not loud. They tend to be quietly confident and genuinely make it all look easy. The clueless think it's easy because they genuinely don't know just what they're getting into. When you know about Dunning-Kruger, it changes how you behave and what you look for.
  • @thuvermolly2426
    There's a Chinese saying (I know...how cliche, but this one is real...) -- "the skilled warrior achieves no spectacular feats" 善战者无赫赫之功. Some competent leaders achieve wonderful results but just don't make enough noise to be noticed.
  • @yvettejon3372
    This was exactly what I needed to hear. My boss is asking for a report on staff morale, which I've told him repeatedly was low, and I've been resistant to doing it. I now know why. I've talked to him about it before to head off problems, but he inevitably ignores what i say, until the wheels come off. I'm exhausted. I think he doesn't realize how low my morale is as well. He dismisses people who are steady and reliable for those who make "busy work" for others to do to make themselves look good. This talk helped me to figure out how I want to address it again with him. Thank you, I need it.
  • @leviathon2
    This makes me think of our political leaders.
  • @lonefire333
    This makes so much sense looking at all the psychopaths, sociopaths, and narcissists at the top
  • @kishoresoma6534
    In life and leadership, we often mistake noise and drama for true capability. The allure of dramatic stories and visible action can overshadow the quiet, steady work of those who plan meticulously and avoid crises. Effective leaders are not those who constantly battle emergencies, but those who prevent them through careful preparation, deep understanding, and thoughtful execution. True success often appears effortless because it is the result of rigorous behind-the-scenes work. Therefore, we must learn to recognize and celebrate the quiet, diligent leaders who create stability and guide us smoothly through challenges, rather than those who thrive on chaos and spectacle. The best leadership often goes unnoticed because it is proactive, not reactive.
  • @tomzhang9614
    “Unhappy is the land that breeds no hero! No, Andrea....unhappy is the land that needs a hero.” ― Bertolt Brecht