Peak Oil Chat: Policies, Politics, and Pathways to Sustainability w/ Simon Michaux & Steve SRSrocco

Bugger slept through my Alarm but Watching your podcast now Andrii 🤓😇

Fantastic show. Thx

I feel it's a perfect quote for the byline of Michaux's new book. "all those people who've dismissed my work and been quite rude about it can Fuck right off!" Made me laugh. Look forward to reading the book. 41:12 Love your work Simon.

Very interesting chat as always. Something else that may put a spanner in the works for deep sea mining for battery minerals: scientists have recently discovered that the nodules they want to mine are producing oxygen. They always assumed that plants have produced the majority of the oxygen for earth, but it turns out that these ocean nodules are producing oxygen in the oceans. Of course the mining industry is trying to downplay this research, just like the fossil fuel industry and tobacco industry have done.

16:00 Ghandi certainly tried to keep the people together. The best of intentions wasn’t enough to dissuade the people from the socioeconomic pressures to separate.

With proper husbanding nuclear power will be good for more than 10,000 years, and that is just thorium. Using it for everything oil related that is. Not including uranium which dissolved in seawater and fully used, not just the 5% u235 now used but all would power humanity for 20,000years if used 100% in molten salt reactors. If used in high pressure water reactors then 4 or 500 years.

Great chat . The comment about co2 in atmosphere staying forever is however false. There is a lot of nuance on this topic since the system is complex but the half life can be 20-1000 years . But the average seems to be in the sun 120 years since majority is reabsorbed by oceans

Ive some time wondered this technoreligion.... and people have pointed out flavors of science religion and other flavors exist. Atheism simply dont work in society, even if some individuals want to live like that. Bitcoin, AI, whatever comes next are incarnations of that technoreligion in material form. All of them use energy in some form.

at 16:00 i like and agree with Fellow Jitster's comments. Andrii's work is really well put together and researched, however, I have criticisms of his "confederation" beliefs and extrapolating meaning from what i would consider fantasy. over extrapolating meaning and causality to historical figures is always fraught with danger as fellow jitster points out. otherwise andrii's work is excellent.

At second round of "Oh $hit" were fcukd conventional dosent work any more [not even just in next quater ], then I fear random individual nations &/or corporations unilateral mad scientist weather mods

“No energy store holds enough energy to extract an amount of energy equal to the total energy it stores. Energy, like time, flows from past to future” (2017).

I saw today newstitle that scientists are surprised trees have grown recent years more than previous decades. Fits well to increased CO2 amount in air. Is that good or bad for humanity, well w e should still worry based on this presentation, mostly what convictions current world order is built upon and convictions are religious fervour, people bleed before they often surrender to change those big way. Circling back to deforestation theme there incase other sources dry out. Thinking mining, blowing up rocks or oldschool gulag way just hammer and hitting rocks, that requires either tons of food or people die there to starvation as caloric use is lot. But before that comes lot of fighting who gets those diminishing production supplies of all these materials. Was Rome decline partly due to diminishing wood stocks? ie they had to conquer new territories further from capital and thus logistics risks and costs increased.... though population was some 100s millions, way smaller than nowadays, so their decline still took hundreds of years. I mean advanced civilization uses more energy or something to enable more specialized jobs and trade but once decline happens, it is matter of time usually less energy, resource using tribes, groups of people get close enough to take over these empire from edges. Farming is base stone but everyone does farming to get food. Romans had metal and pottery products which need fire so likeliest wood was used at the time, few places coal perhaps if locals knew use of that. So question arising from this, is there correlation with population size and how sharp shocks in economy those crisis moments are? Eg stock crashes, wars (by casualties)... it would seem logical as bigger population is more vulnerable to this needing constant supply of products. Gold dust talk reminds of how all ancient books talk succesful empires, kings had golden this and that as status measure, which was taken from enemies... as stealing loot becomes lowest bar when energy becomes more luxury.

I came here to learn something but heared a lot of convoluted assumptions going nowhere. I admit i didnt watch all of it but just went through the timestamps hoping something really interesting was going to pop up. But no..

13:00: "Mao did torture and famine and etc." lol. Sounds like the CIA and U.S. State Dept version of things, aka the prevailing Western propaganda version of things.

Dear god, mute the rooster

Entertaining but also annoying because I'm with Eric Michaels on things.