Actual Science vs Carnivore Fiction

I was in France visiting family. They had a well loved sportscaster die of a heart attack in his 40s. They had a special on TV about heart disease and what to do about it. They repeatedly cited the Framingham Study.

I'm going to mention this again. I lowered my cholesterol by more than a hundred point by diet alone. It's now been two years since I first saw a number under 180. I had a cholesterol over 280. Statins didn't reduce my cholesterol more than twenty points. Eating less meat and more vegetables made the change.

80, 90, and 100 year old doctors still working and making a difference. What more information do you need?

The reason people follow those social media people that put out content that may not be true, is because they are saying what they want to hear. People don't really want to know the truth unless it fits into their narrative.

Another great episode!! Thanks so much for all you do to bring SCIENCE based research and truth to the forefront. You can tell you put a lot of hard work into your episodes.

It's disheartening that the passion and dedication of genuine scientists often go unrecognized. These incredible individuals dedicate their work and love to the greater good, yet many people dismiss their contributions in favor of having their egos boosted by quacks. This tendency to overlook real expertise in favor of self-serving pseudo-science is truly saddening.

Tastes are malleable. People get used to eating things that taste horrible( hard liquor for example.) Likewise we can adapt to eating unprocessed plants. I personally do not like oil after a decade of leaving it behind. I get my healthy fats in small amounts from whole plant foods such as nuts, seeds and avocados. Other plants have modest amounts of fat in them as well. There is no need to pour oil into snd onto our food. The notion that we need it for food to taste good is just untrue. I think saying that things need to taste good to have a sustainable way of eating requires a more nuanced explanation. We get used to eating things and tastes shift. Also we are hard wired to like sweet, fat and salt and there can be a drive to overeat those things. Highly palatable meats, dairy, refined flours, sugar and oil can become addictive. Food can taste very good in a whole food plant based diet without crossing into hyper-palatability. One undeniable drawback of oil in our society is that the vast majority of Americans are overweight or obese. That alone is good reason to eliminate a refined item that is so calorie dense. Furthermore, over half of the country lives paycheck to paycheck. 40% don’t even have $400 in the bank for an emergency. Oil is not in any way necessary for health or palatability. That money spent on oil would be better spent on beans, rice, fruit and vegetables.

You all can do as you will, no judgement. But from actual experience, the carnivore diet drastically improved every aspect of my health. I am stronger, my cardio is better, my skin is better, my hair grows faster, my energy level is way more steady. My inner voice is significantly more relaxed and my thoughts don't make my heart race anymore. My anxiety is vastly improved. I no longer have inflammation in my joints and gut. My stools are significantly less gross. My body fat has gone from over 20% to under 12%. I used to suffer from hypertension. Now my blood pressure is perfect. I know people who eat mostly a plant based diet believe that this can't be true, but have any of you actually tried it? You guys realize that mainstream health and dietary science is often later found out to be totally wrong, right? The doctor who realized that microbes spread diseases actually died in an insane asylum. He was committed by his peers. His suggestion that they wash their hands before treating patients offended their sensibilities so much that he was openly mocked.

Interviews with the actual researchers is far more Informative than all these people giving us their interpretation of their work. Thank you.

I'm really surprised potassium hardly ever gets a mention when discussing hypertension and lowering sodium; the two work together with opposite functions. It seems recent literature suggests the ratio is more important than anything, but it's hardly ever discussed. This also undermines the carnivore diet further, considering there's no way you get the potassium you need.

What a great video! I love your sincere enthusiasm and appreciation during your interviews. It shows how much you know and respect the work of the researchers you have the opportunity to talk with. I like the historical tidbits that are need to me. And showing the antique equipment they had to work on. I also love seeing the environment and equipment seen in the old documentary on the China study found in YouTube. Makes you appreciate their work even more. Even if i knew the history of analytical instrumentation and computers already. Knowing something in theory (and therefore inevitably in abstraction) and seeing it in actual reality are two different things. However I think yours are partially a Sisyphean labour. When the influencers in question doesn't even know the very basics about their topic and simply dismiss things they haven't even read it heard about. They won't change their opinion they built their livelihood on whatever the case may be. They may continue to say it all comes down to genetics. Maybe some strong or different kinds of people can survive the plants but most not. Or is all fake data. They say what their followers want to hear. Of course more open minded and analytical people appreciate your work. And all three carnivores you have actually managed to convince in the last couple of years.

Alcohol shouldn’t be consumed at all!

Can you do a series on sugar substitutes: artificial sweeteners; sugar alcohols; alternative sugars with low GI/GL (e.g. monk fruit, stevia)? And, can you also do one on the various types of saturated fats?

Great interview. Thanks, Chris for bringing this to us. And I love the point that you ended on. Really illustrates your point about checking data.

Thank you for devoting your time, effort, and knowledge to bring us content like this. This channel is doing a lot of good for our collective health and the health of the planet.

Your channel has fast become my favorite. I look forward to each new video release. They’re so informative and I love how you weave history in. I can’t believe Dr. Lustig gets so much attention. Look how unhealthy he looks. I suspect if you take his BMI that he falls into the obese category. Shouldn’t he know better that saturated fat is not good for us? It’s ironic that medical doctors become the authority on nutrition when they receive little to no education in nutrition.

Someone who usto work in my job just died at 59 from a silent heartattack. And he had been doing keto for many years

It's odd... I'm a Brit in his 70s and I've known about the Framingham Study since before I went to university (Maths, not any biology courses). So that the ignorance of anti-science "influencers" in this age of easy access to information baffles me. I say "influencers" because I've noticed how they tend to attract people already in the bubble seeking out the cod science instead of the serious stuff.

I'm far from vegan, I aspire to Mediterranean, though I enjoy a good burger or steak occasionally. But I'm glad you defending good science like The Framingham Study. I eat my fruit and veggies and so does my centenarian mom though she loves beef (but does eat fish often) and as did my centenarian grandmother who was born in 1887. We are a family of long lived omnivores.

Love your channel and videos so much. Thank you for teaching us all and giving us ammo to talk about these topics which have sadly become controversial and wildly misrepresented. Your channel and expertise is so needed in a sea of misinformation.