ThunderCats Roar and the Problem with Reboots

Are there any reboots you have enjoyed in recent years? I was a big fan of the 2011 Thundercats show while it lasted, as well as Voltron Legendary Defender (before the final season, that is)!

My mom used to watch the original Thunder Cats and she’s disappointed in Cartoon Network

Scooby doo: mystery incorporated is a masterpiece and I won't accept any other views.

I dont think comparing batman beyond/batman the animated series to thunder cats/thunder cats roar is fair. Batman beyond is a direct sequel to the series so your able to enjoy payoffs like seeing where certain characters end up in the future. Thunder cats roar doesnt allow for this interactivity as these are fairly different characters from their original counter part and are clearly set in a different universe. Moreover, I highly doubt kids (the clear target audience) will follow up on discovering the base show or its previous reboot. Cartoon network would have to actively promote the older stuff and make them easily available, and the record shows they dont do this (no reruns of the classic teen titans/power puff girls/ben 10 or adding them to their streaming service). I dont think theres a single way to justify the creation of these chibi classics other than it's easy money. If there was at least fan service through character interactions we haven't seen or expanding upon the lore, I'd honestly be content with the dumbed down characters.

What sets 'Batman Beyond apart from 'Teen Titans Go', or 'Thundercats Roar' is that it's a continuation of 'Batman:TAS set in a 'possible future'. In hindsight, we should've gotten 'continuations' of 'Thundercats', and 'Teen Titans' instead of these toddler versions of them.

I don’t buy that younger kids can’t get into more mature cartoons. I was watching Thundercats, He-Man, and the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles when I was like 3, and Batman the Animated Series at like 6. The big problem is that kids need comedy and epic, action heavy adventures as well. The original TMNT was light hearted and fun, but also serious when it needed to be serious. Splinter was a wise voice of reason and a positive influence on the turtles. Elements like these are just absent from most of these new cartoons, everything is just silly because it’s silly, and the characters never seem to grow or learn because that would take away from them being ridiculously silly. It’s the entertainment value of keys jingling in front of a kid’s face.

Batman beyond isn't a reboot it is more of a continuation of the animated series at least that's how I feel.

Rebooting a franchise to attract fans of the first incarnation while simultaneously dumbing it down which will repel those same fans is a waste of everyone's time. It's the animation equivalent of a trap.

[You know, i've learned that some reboots are not always the best... like CPH]

I still remember/miss the 2011 Thundercats series!

3:35 That’s not really the same though. Beyond a sequel series. Roar’s a reboot! Edit: From my perspective, many kids will grow to hate the property. So much to the point where they’ll hate the property as a whole without giving it the time of day. They’re just looking for quality content over another reboot with a generic art style and slapstick humor that seems out of place at times. They can make things like this work but they must strive to improve their writing or art style so it can seem more appealing. Also, they really need to act mature. Their method of handling criticism seemed like something a toddler would do.

Imo the problem with Roar was in how it talked down to the audience - the characters were cutouts, props, being used to push gags. And when studios like that tell us "This is for children not adults" which they have said - what I hear is "We think you're kids are stupid"... The original thundercats was corny and funny but it didn't talk down to kids, it was made for children. Roar is made to fill air-time without actually saying anything and is intended to be left on the screen while kids play with their phones. Also Ben16 actually cleaned itself up after season 1. The characters were still flat compared to alien force and the short-form episodes were hurting it but the storytelling was no worse than gen1 season 1 ben10 and at least ben and gwen weren't constantly fighting and bickering. They actually acted like normal kids instead of cut-outs.

I'll say the duck tales reboot, new she ra, mystery incorporated, thundercats 2011, and to a certain extent voltron are good examples on how to good a good reboot

A problem I have is that these reboots are like really bad fanart of the original. Maybe on their own being a different show with new characters might be better seen by viewers but when they use already established characters and story to change it in a way that it isn't the same show anymore it is just disrespectful to the original.

The difference is, Batman Beyond feels like it came from the same cloth as Batman the animated series. Teen Titans Go on the other hand isn’t the same, they’re both completely different (in terms of writing and style).

Thing is, reboots CAN be good...but only when done right. Look at the new Apes movies with Andy Serkis' Caesar, the A-Team movie, She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, MLP: Friendship is Magic, Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated and other examples of that caliber. These reboots did well not JUST because they gave new spins to already existing properties. But they also made certain to do so that respects the source material. With TTG and Thundercats: ROAR, it takes EVERY element of the old shows and makes things even more childish. While the original Titans series DID have drama, it felt too much like a cheap anime copycat. For me, Young Justice was the superior series. The other problem is we now live in an age where people believe if something's too dramatic or action filled, it will "inspire viewers to do something destructive." Look at the Joker movie; the moment it premiered, some critics claimed it would inspire "mentally ill" people to act the same way Joaquin's character of Arthur Fleck did. Because of this terrified state society seems to be in, creators feel that shows need to be "safer" for kids to watch them. Another example is Disney's recent hit, The Owl House. The moment IT premiered, "concerned parents" claimed it would "inspire viewers to practice satanic arts or witchcraft." In closing, I fear media will never improve; unless the public is unwilling to let in more mature programming on the air

We won't stop attacking Cartoon Network until they say, " Reboots are cancelled "

Tmnt 2012 is an example of a good reboot

the reboot problem seems to be mostly a cartoon network thing as they do reboots the most. Honestly this is all TTG's fault since its obvious CN wants to replicate its success with all reboots they do. a good reboot in modern day would be ducktales 2017

This maybe a little Moneyball, but CN coming under new management is a factor worth examining. For the last 3 - 4 years Time Warner was being acquired by AT&T. AT&T's plan for its new holdings including Cartoon Network, WAG and the rest aren't fully known. I believe Thundercats Roar and the final seasons of Regular Show, Adventure Time, Gumball, and Steven Universe are a bit of a bucket list of the old guard before AT&T make changes to fit with their own vision. Burning off a midlist series before the corporate overlords decree change is a different motivation than seeking out a newer, younger audience.