VEEWISE ON KARLTZY KEEP PLAYING TANK JUNGLE EVEN IF IT DOESNT WORK vs APBREN

They deserved it tho, its a wake up call for them especially for the that fcking high ego coach Didnt learn from the 1st two matches I thought they're hiding strat coz they keep using baxia and akai But boi i was so wrong

I do not know if playing tank junglers is the most comfortable route for Echo, but assuming it is, the team played with their most comfortable heros, so win or lose, they did it with their best heros like what the coach from singapore said. Regardless of the results, aim higher next time and keep the Echo express going!

echo's always like this. It takes them way too long to adapt to a new meta. When Karltzy finally adapted to the tank meta, they went on to become world champions and now a new patch drops two weeks before MSC and they're back to their old habits again. Those drafts against APBren were atrocious

Magcoach ka na Vee. Kahit nasa Blacklist ka pa, ang laki na ng ambag mo sa pagda-draft at pag-analyze.

People keeps blaming the coach but coaches have to compromise in order to match the pool of the players and the best posible picks. A perfect draft is nothing if the players couldn't execute it. Karltzy was the best assassin user. Keyword, was

Veenus analysis is goodd

Why utility jungle works on echo when they face others team, but in apbren they lose when using utility jungle

Damnn Venuss nailing all the drafts moves and predict😄😄cooll

they lost because their draft is predictable, they always open Julian for no reason and couldn't adapt to FCAP's hero draft picks and playstyle. Sad that they lost against FCAP (since they are my pickem) but happy that a PH team is in the finals!

Kyletzy really not buying fully to the utility jg meta seasons before really helped innovate apbren this msc. So much flexibility from their draft (esp the mid julian gamble)

In mpl they don't have analysis but they win here at MSC have analysis but the draft does not echo type aggressively

Same with Onic indo. I think echo is not yet practicing too much assassin this patch.

Comeback stronger KarlTzy

I swear I really like MPL PH, they are all the strongest teams (ML god) I hope I can watch it live on stage at the upcoming MPL PH!!

Difference between NA fans and PH, NA fans blame teammates of their favorite players while PH fans giving credit to the winner because they picked, banned and played better

that pharsa pick dont work but still they keep using...its better if sanji used the julian coz he can play

Idk about high micro assassins but why didn't they pick julian when it was open i am pretty sure karl can play julian or even sanji why 2nd pick pharsa

Karltzy only uses assassins against weak teams😂

So apparently, Echo is under the Semis curse whenever MSC comes up ☠️ ONIC ID 3 - 0'd them in MSC 2023 in the semis Now, APBR ALMOST did the same treatment against Echo/TLPH, 3 - 1 in the semis. Next year...HOPEFULLY they do NOT go through such a curse again, but APBR outdrafted them as usual, APBR read them like a book. So yeah, it was bound TLPH was going to get clapped badly in this match. Not discrediting APBR, but yeah, TLPH might have gone a bit hasty this match too.

Thats where karltzys confidence gap is at. He's using utility jungle because his teamates cannot keep up with the damage output that Bren can produce in such a short amount of time.Even if he likes going for assasin and secure kills and objectives, in the long run their towers will definitely wittle down because kyle can definitely kill any heroes they have 1v1. Sanford is good but against someone his level, it's 50-50 He's on always aggressive side and its good but marco can already anticipate it thus he arrives faster than benny during these objective clash where their lanes are on the opposite side of the map.Then benny, it's not his positioning that makes him very strong it's his ability to completely release a burst damage in an instant but in terms of positioning he's a level below marco and so is marco in completely bursting his opponent, he's more like kiter than a burster. In terms of midlaners I think sanji is a level ahead of pheww but in team fight, pheww opts for a poke damage rather than a clash damage because he knew that kyle can one shot anyone as an assasin if he can wittle them low enough as karltzy was forced to play as a utility jungler. The new emblems and items also gives a much more advantage as an assasin jungler than a utility jungler. Sanji likes to fight agressive in a fight. Mostly 3 combo shot to eliminate marco or pheww but his style of being a mage is completely countered by Master Owgwen. Owgwen is really good at reading on when an enemy decides to instantaneously remove a player in the map and will not hesitate to use his arsenal even if he knows the enemy might bluff because even if he missed, flaptzy always compliments his mistakes as well as owgwen for flap. As for jaypee, thats5where it contradicts the playstyle of echo. Jaypee tends to think more of how to save his teammates and make a one definite play. His play is more of a wiped set or game ending set like what chaknu is. He's really good at reading assasins but he's limited by Karl's utility. I think that if jaypee is a bitore aggressive in his playstyle, they could've caught flap and owgwen most of the time because they're the only two in bren that can actually slip up. But i dunno tho, that's just what I was during their fights. And also when they beat bren in Ph finals, it's because the synergy of phew and owgwen was too focused that his synergy with flap just became no existent.