Why roller coaster loops aren't circular

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Published 2022-06-29
The G forces were out of this world.

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If you’ve ever been on a modern looping roller coaster, you’ve probably experienced a thrilling, safe, and mostly comfortable ride. But this wasn’t always the case. Just over 100 years ago, loop-the-loops were painful, not sturdy, and much more dangerous than they are today.

Between the 1840s and early 1900s, loops on roller coasters were perfectly circular — meaning riders would go from traveling in a fairly straight line to immediately moving into a curve. This rapid onset of curvature caused extreme G force spikes that rattled passengers to their core.

The first looping roller coaster in North America — Coney Island’s Flip-Flap Railway — could exert up to 14 G's on a person. For reference, astronauts in a spaceship launch experience 3 G’s. Fighter pilots with very special equipment and training can handle 10 G’s for short periods of time. 14 G’s was (and still is) tremendous.

More people paid to watch others ride these early coasters rather than ride themselves. Without sustained success, most looping coasters closed down within their first decade of operation.

Looping coasters wouldn’t find success again until the 1970s with a new loop shape, new materials, many more cars — and, thankfully, fewer G’s. In this video, we break down all the advancements that helped make looping coasters the popular ride they are today.

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gizmodo.com/why-roller-coaster-loops-are-never-cir

www.washingtonpost.com/archive/1997/08/13/a-brief-


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All Comments (21)
  • @Vox
    June is World Roller Coaster Appreciation month and if you love roller coasters check out American Coaster Enthusiasts, the group that Randy Geisler is a part of. Check out their channel here: youtube.com/c/ridewithace/ And if you’re looking for a deep dive into physics, Professor Matt has a channel too: youtube.com/user/yoprofmatt Thanks for watching!
  • @SaarimaaSauli
    I did learn about this after playing Roller Coaster Tycoon as a kid and wondering why customers find my 20 g-force hypercoaster a bit too intense.
  • @Nova3674
    As someone who studied engineering, works in theme park design, and is just an all around coaster enthusiast, can confirm this video is on point. Even using the the correct geometry based terminology of clothoid loops to describe the “teardrop” loop., made famous by the manufacturer Arrow Dynamics (who also helped make the Matterhorn). Fun thing to notice, Arrow built a number of geometry based coasters (as opposed to force-based) with the clothoid loop. But for a long time only used one size for the loops design. So the bigger the first drop, the higher the same sized loop had to be off the ground. Examples, Great American Scream Machine, or the still operating Viper at Six Flags Magic Mountain.
  • @khalilahd.
    I love Vox because I never know what I’m going to learn about when we get an upload but I’m never disappointed â˜ș this is so interesting and makes sense. I still don’t like rollercoasters but I like the science behind it lol
  • @muhammadazneel
    I would like to thank Chris Sawyer for his RollerCoaster Tycoon series for introducing the concepts of rollercoasters (and theme parks) to millions of children like me, who are either unable or less fortunate to go to one. But I'll always enjoy to go on one in any shape or size...
  • I live half an hour from HersheyPark and visit frequently. When I was younger, I hated coasters, but SooperDooperLooper was one of the first ones I tried to get over my fear and it barely even realized I was going around the loop! Thanks Vox for explaining the technology behind smoothing the g force and the mechanisms in place to make these things awesome (yes I do love coasters now)!
  • @willemrood
    This is also exactly why the radius of turns in roads are variable, just such that the steering input is gradual rather than you having to flick it in. This is especially evident with on-off ramps of highways.
  • @alexz5620
    For a similar reason train tracks and street curves (like offramps) aren't perfect circle sections like you may find on a model railway either. If they were, turns would be really violent or require you to turn your wheel in an instant.
  • @KirtFitzpatrick
    This explains why athletes have so much trouble when they try to ride full pipes or loops. Every loop I've ever seen built for skateboard, bike, motorcycle, etc were all perfect circles.
  • @Turkeyslam
    Vox over here making a video about rollercoaster engineering and they did their research to the point where enthusiasts won't be able to rip this video apart. I'm impressed. Well done! I loved the quick flash to Olympia Looping in that transition near the end there.
  • You forgot to mention that the engineer who invented the modern looping coaster is Werner Stengel from Munich. He invented also many other things in Rollercoaster design. Revolution in six flags Magic mountain was built by Schwarzkopf and designed by Stengel. Stengel also designed Top Thrill Dragster, Millennium Force and Kingda La (and many hundreds more).
  • @hypercane2023
    Been putting off watching this video because it didn't seem interesting from the title and thumbnail. I'm glad I was proven wrong. Absolutely amazing story telling and the amount of work required to tell it is inspiring and the quality is AMAZING! Here's hoping this becomes a new genre of investigative journalism throughout YouTube. Please do more of this!
  • I mean, you could make them circular, if you wanted people to be flatter
  • Are you serious??? 😑 few days ago I searched up the whole internet for this question cause I needed it for my Physics class. If only u had made this video before 😓
  • @sk8razer
    One time I was seated next to a blind middle schooler on Magic Mountain's Revolution. A bunch of people started screaming like as soon as the ride started moving and this 13ish year old just yelled " WHY ARE YOU ALL SCREAMING??? I'M BLIND AND I'M NOT EVEN SCARED!! " Classic pubescent snark 😂
  • @pablofromny
    Amazing that a news company can get you interested in almost anything
  • @NatashaVincent
    Nah, we jumped a whole part of history once the tubular steel was mentioned: who thought to go from a one car structure to multicar? And how much testing was involved? I don't like coasters at all but this was an interesting video. Thank you!
  • @petitthom2886
    “Superdooperlooper” Best name ever for a roller coaster
  • @Jesus_is_savior
    Tysm I was always uncomfortable about how rollercoasters aren’t round . I thought it would look gorgeous round.
  • @_P4nth3r_
    i live super close to hershey and i’m basically there every week or two in the summer and it’s super fun, the sooperdooperlooper was my first ever coaster and it’s what go me into coasters really. it’s a really interesting and fun ride even though it seems kinda lame to today’s standards.