Dragon Ball GT: What The Hell Happened?

Its Vegeta's mustache wasn't it?

Joke's on you, I experienced the whole dragon ball saga through the story mode of Budokai Tenkaichi 3

Power levels are cool, but I always preferred the adventure aspect. The original Dragon Ball can't be beat imo. The original Tenkaich Budokai saga with just Goku and Kuririn delivering milk on mountains as part of their training still takes me to a new world. No one had to destroy a planet either. Just watching them move a boulder was awesome.

The Concepts of GT were actually amazing, if you think about it. The execution however... well, at least the ending was on point.

to be fair, we didn't really get any "emotional build up" for ss3 either. it was kinda just dropped out of nowhere from Goku against Fat Buu

“The villains of Dragon Ball would just feel like walking power levels” Perfect description of Jiren

GT might not be loved by everyone. But to me, I love it and that ending will always be THE ending of DB for me. That ending legit made me tear up.

As a Mexican guy I experienced Dragon Ball from the first episodes all the way to GT and the dub is just Beautiful, absolutely incredible, one of the good things to come out of Televisa was broadcasting this series for so long, when Goku defeated vegeta for the first time, when he turned super sayian, when perfect cell was defeated by SSJ2 Gohan, it was all you'd hear about at school, even just going for some Tacos if it was dragon ball time, and they had a TV set, you were going to watch it there for sure, such a massive hit around here, still beloved to this day and probably forever.

"Space Racist", I never heard such an accurate description of Freiza

While SS4 doesn't have any buildup to it, I do enjoy the fact its related to Sayain lore and the entire giant ape aspect of the race. Something that basically seems forgotten in Super.

There were two emotional moments in the fight against Baby. First, Gokuh didnt become SS4 after having his tail pull out. He became a SS Ozaru out of control. He lost his mind. It was Pan's tears and Pan's picture of their family and friends that returned Goku's consciousness and give him the push he needed to turn SS4. That was an emotional moment. Second, after Goku defeated Baby and Trunks and Goten turned back to normal, they believed that Goku needed to kill Vegeta to get rid of Baby for good. Trunks accepted but you could see his pain, Goten hugged him, and Goku considered his course of actions silently for a few seconds. Then he shot Baby/Vegeta, but it was only to destroy his tail after which Vegeta's body returned to his original and Baby had to leave it. This moment was brief but it was also quite emotional. It's been more than 10 years since I watched GT, but those two moments stand up in my memory.

I would like to say something about Baby. I mean, ok, i am hella biased towards Baby, he is my favorite DB villain. I just hope you read this, Wolf. Baby might not have the best battle in the series, i agree with that, but i don't think his battle holds no emotional narrative towards both characters like you said. Goku is the last pure Saiyan in the universe besides Vegeta, and for Baby that means that he is the last remnant of the race that obliterated his home planet. Goku is the last target of Baby's unrivaled hatred, a target that wasn't probably even alive when his planet was attacked. But the thing is that to Baby, as smart as he is, as much "justice" driven as he is, he is still blinded by his hatred. It doesn't matter if Goku was never there, he shares the blood of those who were, and to him, that's all that really matters. No wonder he kinda has a Spirit Bomb, but instead, made of his hatred. The Spirit Bomb in Japan is called the GenkiDama, which can kinda be translated into something like "Positive Sphere" or something like that. Baby's ultimate move is a reflection of what he is, he is a hypocrite that conquered galaxies just like the saiyans did, justifying it as settling a score, and instead of solving problems with dialogue, he instead chose to kill and obliterate oposition, once again, just like saiyans did. His hatred is so powerful he does not need any help to make a Spirit Bomb so to speak, he can do it on his own. About Goku now. Ok, the tail thing? Yes, it is dumb. BUT: what happens later isn't. Goku faces Baby, this time believing he has got it. He has got the tail, he can beat Baby, no problem. After all he was told this would make him stronger, however that does not happen. Baby does not feel any higher power in Goku. So Goku this time is faced not with rage and despair like with Freeza, but with legitmate crippling fear and dissapointment. So many of his loved ones depend on him and he for the first time in his life, simply can't compete, he is out of tricks, out of techniques, out of strength... However, he looks at the moon and he feels something he hadn't felt in a long time. An unstoppable hunger for battle, for killing and the surging of enormous beastly power that slowly takes him over. The power of an Oozaru. Goku in this form is actually finally fighting Baby on an equal level, but is it worth it? Goku is slowly losing his humanity, he hurts not only Baby but also Pan, his dear grand-daughter. During this moment Goku is not unlike Baby, he is a monster, without anything that pushes him foward besides rage. It's only after Pan finally reaches to Goku's heart that he finally remembers. He is fighting for something more. In that moment Goku remember what actually hangs in the balance, it's the fate of everyone in the universe, his family, his friends and their freedom. That is when he finally reaches the form of something beyond a normal Super Saiyan. The Super Saiyan 4 is not like the other forms, it's the appearance and power of a monstruous beast but with the heart and motivations of a human being. Which is ironic, since Baby in this fight later turns into a Oozaru to try and compete, once again going for that simbolism. Baby might use whatever speech he want, he can talk about justice, about his people, about retribution but the truth always reveals itself. Baby is nothing but a beast, consumed by rage, alone with nothing to fight for but his own desires of a petty and non sensical revenge. Goku is driven by something more than that, because underneath the dumb, battle driven beast that Goku can be, he is more human than Baby EVER will be. Goku earned the trust and friendship of those around him with love, his naive way of being and a bit of his sense of humor. Baby forced people to stay by his side because he thought he was entitled and deserving of it, because he was too busy drunk on his wicked sense of justice. That is why in the end, Goku had everyone at his side, and Baby died alone, without a name to call and with no one to miss him. So yeah, maybe it's all the power of friendship, but i still like it a lot. If you actually read this, thanks for the attention Wolf. :)

"I have never hated an anime more than I hated Dragon Ball GT." You clearly haven't watched boruto.

At least GT showed blood and battle damage. Unlike Super. Just Saiyan.

I absolutely loved it. From the Dan-Dan opening to seeing my favourite character, Gogeta. I was young and the internet wasn't there to slap me in the face and point out all the flaws. Doesn't matter though, this show is forever etched in my kokoro.

I completely forgot about all the kid stuff. I just remember the baby arc and I loved it

Goku GT: an adult in the body of a kid Goku super: a kid in the body of an adult

When I was a kid, I didn't give a single f*ck about GT being bad. I freaking enjoyed and loved it as EVERY Dragon Ball episode.

It's the same problem I had with the Pokémon anime, no progression and weird restarts. First few seasons were interconnected and felt like a journey of growth. But when Ash started ditching his team every new region, they might as well changed the protagonist to match those of the games, so at least we get a believable arc. I know that anime exists just to sell merchadise but they could still make so much more with it

From what I can see, from this video and from my own experience watching it, is that it makes a explanation for the unreleased ending. Cause while super has more escalation, how much escalation can you get? You reach the top of the pyramid, rivals lose meaning. His ending was amazing. The way we see Pan as an old woman accidentally seeing goku, leaving it to us as to whether it was him? Hell, vegeta had a beautiful scene accepting his place as the better father and accepting goku for being the best. The ending that was unreleased had a heartbreaking bit and some deep stuff, which the video explains wouldn't have worked for its child friendly audience. Goku being immortal was ... surprising though. Vegeta having a mustache... eh.