Best Tesla Powerwall Alternatives 2023

I really appreciate your videos. The discussions are very straightforward and comprehensive. Thank you!

Thanks. Very informative.

First of all felt this was a very well presented and prepared overview of current whole home solar power systems. No one does it quite as good as you do. However that being said, etc.

Tesla is offering Powerwalls Direct (without Tesla Solar) again so likely they are building up a backlog. Expect an announcement on V3 Powerwall soon, possibly be lithium iron phosphate solution.

When I got my batteries my installer informed me that they didn’t know when they could get PW’s and presented me with Enphase Encharge as an alternative and I went with that. The equipment in this industry changes so fast, that if you wait for the latest and greatest you would never get anything installed. The Encharge batteries are working great!

Great job. Joe thanks for information

Just my personal opinion, unless you are using Tesla to do your solar install, the chances of actually getting a PowerWall is slim to none (and on top of the that Tesla will not do ground mounts if you wanted to use them for solar but need a ground mount). I waited almost a year for a PowerWall and then went with Enphase (The wait times might have improved since my experience with them). I am very happy with Enphase. 33 KW of batteries with 3 air conditioners. We did install soft starts on 2 of the the air conditioners. I am having more solar installed, at some point I will look for batteries for that new solar system. It will be a tough decision between all the choices out there now. Getting a system that supports bi directional EV charging is high on my list. The time of day electrical rates, using power from your car during peak rates and re charging it later that night at the cheapest rates is a game changer.

Thanks for sharing. Never heard of Franklin.

joe , great update . Can you consider doing a video on all the present invertor and battery warranty's ? Most folks never read the warranty before their system purchase and they do not understand how the word "or" can way shorten the warranty period . details matter . I have not seen this type of youtube video yet . you can do it :)

Question, I have two solar systems on my home one is without a back up battery. It’s a 7 kW system and the second one is a 5 kW system with a tesla power wall 2 and if I decide to hook up the Franklin batteries with my 7 kW system, have you ever run into two different types of batteries operating your home?

Can you mix power walls to obtain whole house system, I presently have one Tesla power wall, and I’m looking to increase my power wall to obtain whole house capabilities

As soon as the sky stops dropping massive amounts of water(at least for here) I will be installing the Darfon Gen two Hybrid system on my house. I will have about 35kWh of energy and 9.6 kW of power when the grid is on and 7.6 kWs when the grid is gone. It is rated at about 14kW surge capacity with no grid as well. I will be replacing my older SunPower modules and SMA inverter with 8.2kW of PV and DC coupling that to the Darfon inverter installing a new roof as well. One really cool thing about this inverter is that it can be AC and DC coupled. Not or but and, if you are retrofitting to an existing array that can be AC coupled but if you need to add PV you can fun that directly into the inverter as well. I will also connect my existing 7.6kW Propane generator into it so if I have reduced PV I can recharge the battery from the generator.

4pm to 9pm peak hours in summer. Just a reminder, It would be nice to have one of those.

It appears to me that I have a combination of interphase and Teslar products because I have both software monitoring on my phone and tablet. Which leads me to believe but I am unsure because I am not an installer, Or tech. I’m just end user. I have 30 panels on my home and I am located and Tennessee.

I like you evaluation and I agree the FranklinWH is a very good option. I installed one and have been quite pleased so far. And from my view the cost is noticably lower than SolarEdge. With EnPhase they have additional challenges in that from what I can tell the batteries, using the newer IQ8 microinverers do not play well with the not so old IQ7 or IQ6 microinverters. So from my view EnPhase and SolarEdge are onlyh apporiate on a new install. And I would be careful about overselling the EnPhase bi-directional charger as it is a bit ahead of it's time as VERY few EV's support power export. I think ONLY the Ford F150 Lightening is only shipping EV that will support power export.

HI Joe!! and thanks for the information. I have a 13kwh Solar install with a mix of LG and Panasonic. Will be installing 1 Franklin WHB Setup next month. My Question is going forward will I have to stay with Franklin for more battery capacity or are the other solutions ?

Do any of the systems have a bumpless transfer from grid to battery in the case of an outage? Also on the Franklin how is the battery charged? My neighbors here in TX supposedly have to charge their Tesla Powerwall battery from excess solar only (except in emergencies). The Franklin is not tied to any solar though, and I was wondering how that worked. For reference I have an older and small SolarEdge system (before EnergyHub), and an F-150 lightning with the ProCharger. The F150 backup has a several minutes downtime after the grid goes out, so I am trying to piece something together to cover that gap potentially.

I'm curious what Joe would say about the advisability of getting a generator if a consumer either has or plans to get an electric vehicle that can do bi-directional charging (i.e. could be used to power a home during a prolonged outage). I also am wondering about the Solar Edge battery. I tried to get a system with a local installer but they would only do a grid tied Solar Edge system, not one with a backup battery. They told me that they have too many call backs on this battery and they don't get paid for labor costs to remove the old battery and install the new one.

I've been looking at the Franklin for one reason that I never heard mentioned--"black start" that allows solar panels to charge the battery during a power outage.

I'll be interested to see how things will change with the Tesla Powerwall 3.