Let the Despicable Me Girls Grow Up: Despicable Me 4

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how are we supposed to have the girls not aging yet suddenly we now have a baby, is the baby going to stay a baby forever???

The director saying he wanted the franchise to be like the Simpsons showed how out of touch the studio is

The girls not aging is criminal in my opinion. The girls growing up would bring different challenges for Gru with could be very compelling to watch. Margo could go through high school drama and Gru wouldn't know how to handle it, Edith could become rebellious and teach Gru patience, Agnes could maybe mature a little bit so she could contribute more to the story.

For me, "We don't want to age up the characters" just translates to "We don't want our movies to have any interesting conflicts that audiences could relate to"

Also I think u could've done a good storyline where the girls are insecure about Lucy and Gru having a biological child since they're adopted and that's a legit thing that happens in the world where the oldest child/children were adopted because the parents thought they couldn't have biological children/wanted to adopt first then they get a surprise child and the adopted children feel insecure because this child is blood to the birthparents vs them who were adopted.

Honestly, this felt like a weaker version of the third movie.

My first thought: oh, this movie came out?

Let's be honest, "4" in a movie title is usually bad news

The juxtaposition of Despicable Me 4 and Inside Out 2 being in theaters at the same time and the huge difference in how they treat their audience is both fascinating and pretty sad.

At this point the writers are stuck with "ze gorls." I'm surprised they haven't been sent away to boarding school yet.

This felt like a Despicable Me Tv show where 6 episodes were sticked together to make a movie

"We don't want to age up the characters" means: Why spend more money on new models if we already have the ones from the first movie.

The perfect example of just how little this franchise cares about Gru's daughters is when Margo gets back from the first day at her new school with a bunch of glitter all over her and tells Gru that she's being bullied. And... that's it. We never see those bullies. She never mentions it again. We never get any sort of resolution to her problem. That's literally all we get. But hey, look, kids! MORE MINIONS! Laugh! Laugh! Forget about the human characters! They don't matter anymore! Look, that Minion just got pooped on! Hahahaha! Isn't character regression fun?

I feel like Gru became really flat and boring as a character after the first film because nothing really happens to instigate a big change in him. Like in the first film, he accidentally softened up to the girls after they accepted him in the scene where he blows up the fairground stall, and he pretty much had a gradual change of heart from there. The second film kindaa gave him some growth in that he shouldn't throw away opportunities because of his bad past experiences, but it pretty much tipped off from there. It'd be really interesting if we had a film about the girls aged up to teens, and gru as a father would have to adapt to that change. Not only would a lot of fathers relate to that, but we'd finally get to see some growth in our main character after several years lol.

In a discord server with some kids i’m going to go to college with, one of them said that they watched this under the influence of some substances, and yet still couldn’t find it funny. If you can watch a COMEDY movie while drunk and/or high, and NOT find anything in it funny, that’s the mark of a bad comedy.

Watch Despicable Me 1, then watch Despicable Me 4. The difference between their writing is shocking. The contrast really highlights what all of Illumination's movies have been since Despicable Me 1. Actually don't watch this movie.

The kids worked well in the first movie because they were kind of the catalyst for Gru to change, it was about Gru struggling to maintain his evil plan when he also wants to give these children a something he never had: a childhood. If they grew up I feel like they could do something interesting with that, I actually like the Edith wanting to be a villain idea because it sounds interesting. And the minions remind me more of bananas even more, because when they expire they expire hard.

Poppy literally looks like Gru and Lucy's lovechild. When I first saw her in a promo, I thought she was Gru's daughter grown up until I saw that the girls haven't aged.

The movie should’ve definitely aged up the cast. Make Gru’s son a kid and not a baby so the two can have an actual relationship. Age up the girls and make Edith a villain that works with Dru (who would still be relevant because the 3rd film left off on Dru taking the minions to continue doing villainy and Gru being gleefully ready to take him on.) I’d also bring back the old villains to do a super villain team up, which would’ve been a FAR better reason for Gru and his family to go into witness protection. Also have Gru hating his new life in a funny gag montage instead of starting plot lines that’ll never get solved. Keep the plot focused. Dru is doing bad and Gru is trying to keep him under control while also trying to not be caught by his past villains who are seeking revenge. With Dru being manipulate to help the villains trap Gru, with Brad saying “he’s changed his ways” or something to avoid a plot hole. And have a big final battle where Lucy is fighting say El Macho, Dru is fighting Brad, Agnest, Margo, and the Mega Minions fighting the vicious 5, and Gru, Edith, and Gru Jr fighting Scarlet and Vector. It would be an avengers style finally, and even though it would definitely not be the end of the franchise, it would lead the franchise into a new era. With Gru Jr being the next Gru and carrying the next line of movies. I have this whole thing in my head, I believe this movie could’ve been a really satisfying film for Despicable me Fans. So yeah, that’s my take!