What Are the Nameless Things of Moria - Cryptids of Middle-Earth

Gandalf and the Balrog having a truce while fighting off horrors in a ancient Eldritch city is so metal.

Gandalf: "I've seen some serious amazing shit.....But I'm not telling!" Dude, wtf.

“There are older and fouler things than orcs in the deep places of the world…” -Gandalf

I forget where It was said but I remember something about the nameless things in regard to Morgoth. "They are like Morgoth (evil) but no OF Morgoth. Not of his kin." This indicated he did not create them but they are evil. Another passage says, "But they will not heed Morgoth. For all evil hates and they hated him to." This indicated Morgoth could not control them meaning they are not simple animals. I don't remember the quotes but there are other passaged warning to not try to describe them or talk to much about them because it attracts their attention. When Gandalf is describing what happened the sun actually gets dimmer. It is also mentioned they have their own machinations beyond the understanding of even Sauron. These things are not animals. They are extremely powerful. Let them remain nameless.

As someone who never got deep into Tolkien's works beside only watching the the movies, I really enjoy content like this that give me an insight into the world of his works.

IMO, Eru accidently created the Nameless things, here's how. Eru needed to sing the Ainur. Like a conductor, he hummed to set the tone (and accidently created Tom). Then cleared his throat like we all do (creating the Nameless Things) and then sang the Ainur into being (on purpose).

I've often thought that Ungoliant, the Nameless Things and a lot of other creatures are the direct result of the Discord sown into the Ainulindale by Melkor and the Maiar he was able to sway to his side... things created beyond Melkor's intent, perhaps the results of Eru attempting to remedy the Discord and its externalities

olkien was a linguist. Language was so fundamental to him that he still said mass in Latin even after it started being held in English. Those things being nameless , in my estimation, would be a linguists way of making them utterly alien, irrational, incomprehensible. Eldritch horrors, not bound by the rules of reality, physics, nor are they part of Eru Iluvatars song. Maybe background noise.

Something I love about Tolkien was that he understood that mystery is what gives a fictional world it's wonder. If everything can be comprehensively understood, it makes the world smaller. Im gonna chop it up to we don't know and won't ever know and any attempt to theorize has zero basis in what we do know about the world.

I watched hundreds of deep dive Middle-Earth videos.. well one more is not gonna hurt <3

It is stated that Ungoliant was a spirit that entered the world shortly after creation by Ilúvatar, that took the form of a giant black spider, but we have no idea how old that spirit was. The Nameless things I would suggest are similarly spirits from the void that, like Ungoliant , entered the world when it was formed, but settled in the depths, rather than the surface, and here's an idea. As an alternative though, the Sun and the Moon are Miar, locked in those forms. Since the nameless things gnaw at the foundations of the world, what if they are the tectonic forces that shape and shake the land?

It would be interesting if Eru unknowingly created the nameless things. Specifically that they came into existence "on their own" while Eru was having doubts in his creations. Which is why they're underground, unseen and knawing away on middle earth's insides much the same way how doubts can.

I know the two men never met personally but I always pictured the nameless things to be a kin to the elder things or shoegoths of Lovecraft. Strange, with many forms, and completely undescribable.

Finally, a video about them with well thought out theories

I've always been fascinated by the eldritch Nameless Things.

I remember watching the first LOTR movie when i was a teen and Gandalf talking about the nameless things that existed before time. I was so peed off that he didnt go in-depth about what he said. over 15 years i now finally get the answer i have been craving for. Thank you for the insightful video

You know what? I'm converted. Your personal theory is mind blowing. I love the idea of an unseen, eldritch ecosystem right under our heroes' very noses.

My personal head canon is they're essentially things you would see in Steven King's "Todash Darkness," the void between dimensions. The things we see in "The Mist." I also like to think that Durins Bane was also disturbed by the nameless things

I have always been fascinated by the nameless things of Middle-Earth. Great video! Your channel is going to be huge! Appreciate the great quality of the video.

The Valar were his first thoughts, the Nameless Things were his first nightmares.