This MTG Shuffle Cheater Actually Got Disqualified

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Published 2023-11-12
This MTG Shuffle Cheater Actually Got Disqualified. Sebastian Wibmer vs Sven Stolz
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All Comments (21)
  • @svenyproud
    I was the finals player against him. He did so much more than just cheating in game. Of the tables he was manipulating players in conceiding for him pre game because he wanted to farm points for the cardmarket series. He also initiatited to the Top 8 to split prizes and then begged to not play quarters and semis against him cause of the points system lol
  • @Lovuschka
    Fun fact: If there was money at stake, he actually committed a crime under German law (where this tournament was held). So police could have been called, or a criminal complaint be filed for attempted fraud.
  • @travisgowen5044
    The audacity to celebrate your victory like that when you know full well that you were busted for cheating...
  • @thms.pfl_
    Back in 2016/2017 i first ran into Sebastian. He used to play very frequently at a LGS in Regensburg, Germany. He won every Legacy tournament and i knew there was always smth off about him. He not only cheated in a classic sense but always tried to redeem decisions, talk you into bad moves and making you feel uncomfortable (He once called a judge to check if my cards were real to distract me). Very unpleasant guy in general, who did everything to win. He had a huge character break and almost acted insulted after loosing to my (back then) 16 yo brother‘s Budget Burn deck once.
  • My job is to deal with thieves. Every single day. I have seen that fake exasperated expression and hand gesture combined with anger at an accusation a thousand times at this point. I'd recognize it anywhere.
  • @KH-tu3no
    Cheaters caught red handed like that should be ban for really, really long times. Meaning 10+ years. They're detrimental to everyone's experience.
  • @HeroDark98
    Good on the viewers for catching it. But honestly, how the hell did no one catch the double land play? Everyone saw it and the commentators are just "Oh well, nothing to see here." I get why his opponent didn't catch it, he's focusing on himself, but the commentators, judges, and viewers?
  • @EbonAvatar
    That Wasteland cheat was so brazen my jaw hit the floor. It's crazy to me that no one spotted it. I can understand why the opponent might have missed it since they were focused on their own plays, but how did no one on the commentary team or judging staff notice a cheat that obvious?? Especially since he had literally used a Wasteland the previous turn too?
  • PSA: do not cut your opponents deck after they shuffled. Shuffle it as well.
  • I normally try to play as quickly as I can but when I see players like this one that are playing so frantically and constantly fidgeting things all over the place, shortcutting effects, etc. I slow waaaaaay down because they often are trying to do something like this.
  • @ghostmeister8883
    What's the point in "judges" watching the game if they literally catch nothing.
  • @kingginger3335
    That wasn't smooth at all! Lol his opponent didn't even get to see what was destroying his land until it was in the bin. He probably thought dude cast a spell. That's what it looked like on camera. Idk how he wasn't caught instantly
  • @NecroBurt
    Shuffle-cut fatigue has been enabling cheating for a very long time. Stay strong, don’t get bored. Yes it’s tedious to shuffle your opponents deck every time they fetch, but if you don’t this is what you can expect. There’s a reason beyond “deck thinning” people run so many shuffle effects.
  • Imagine a cheaters league where all the known cheaters are gathered together to play underhanded against one another.
  • @BaldurtheImpious
    TWO VIDEOS IN THE SAME MONTH!?!?! We are having christmas early boys!!! ❤❤
  • @rileymcphee9429
    You can see that final deck shuffle at 9:30 he once again, didn't present the deck for cutting to his opponent.
  • You know, opponents would more likely catch cheaters in the act if they stopped shuffling their damn hands and focused on what the cheater is doing.
  • @itskmillz
    YESS!!! More cheating coverage, the content I joined the channel for! I love your explanations of how these scumbags cheat, please do more like this if you find the content!
  • @WarpRulez
    If I were in charge of MTG tournament rules, I would categorically forbid drawing 3 cards in one single motion with brainstorm, and putting 2 cards back likewise in one single motion. It's IMPOSSIBLE to see if someone is cheating in that situation if they draw all 3 cards at the same time and put 2 cards back at the same time. All 3 cards should be clearly drawn one by one, clearly displaying that it's just 1 card each time, and the 2 cards should be clearly put back one by one, showing that indeed 2 cards are being put back. I'm actually baffled why that isn't a rule.
  • @albi8074
    One way to work out if someone cheats, or is just a sloppy/bad player, is to look at whether or not their misplays only ever advantage them. Bad players will make mistakes which sometimes hurt them. Cheaters usually don’t.