The Sonic Reference Problem

Have you guys Opened Your Heart to these amazing Sonic references? Or are you just about ready to Show Them What You're Made of? Personally, I'm about to Green Hill Zone Act 3 myself to oblivion. Anyways, huge thank you to FUM for making this video possible. Go to tryfum.com/CHAOMIX and use code CHAOMIX to save an additional 10% off your order today.

talk about a low budget flight

sonic is just being inclusive to all the dementia-stricken sonic players by reminding them that it's HIS game and HIS world

Sonic's dialogues in Frontiers: - Oh God Amy, this is crazy, it's like that time I merged with Shadow to fight that gray hedgehog with Dragon Ball powers.

Honestly, all the references got too exhausting in the comics. It makes the world feel so small. The only reason it was more tolerable in Frontiers was because Sonic's monologs were rare.

* A plane goes flying in the sky * Sonic: "You know, this reminds of Metal Harbor..."

Hearing Sonic saying Shamar will never stop being uncanny especially since it’s my name

Green Hills looking alot like Sand Hill right now.

4:22 this one is particularly frustrating from a game design perspective. If I heard this out of context in a game that allows exploration, I would begin looking for a chao garden since the line is structured like a hint rather than a reference

Sonic making all the references in Frontiers during his monologues are leftover from the scrapped plot of him losing his memories after landing on Starfall. He was supposed to be getting his memories back at the time of the callbacks that he makes.

4:53 Ignoring the previous story is a bad thing, but focusing too much on the previous story is also a bad thing. Like everything, there's got to be a balance

what gets me the most is how a lot of these references just don’t feel like natural dialogue, they make a reference for the sake of making a reference when i think of a reference done right, i think of sonic heroes, when knuckles was in awe at the size of final fortress and commented how “the egg carrier is NOTHING compared to this!” while this reference doesn’t serve much purpose in the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t feel out of place because the egg carrier is knuckles’ strongest frame of reference regarding giant airships, giving it a good reason to be referenced. the way the line was written is also much more casual than “this reminds me of/this is like…”, which is more blatant sounding in comparison EDIT: fixed knuckles’ quote

10:28 Doesn’t he get asked these questions on his podcast though? By people who want this information? It’s not like he’s just spreading this around for no reason, people quite literally ask him.

That Dragball art be hittin' different rn

The "no money" thing probably means "no traditional currency" as in cash or coins. Considering how in flux the rings to item ratio is from game to game it seems accurate from a certain POV

Ian Flynn runs a Q&A podcast, all the lore reveals he said were directly asked to him.

Sonic: "Oh man Tails, this is worse than that time I ended up in Subspace in Super Smash Bros. Brawl!"

11:05 Then why do people ask? Why do you care about what this guy says on a stream?? Flynn simply answers because the fandom is so obsessed with canon and lore and buzzwords

Ian did not say only male hedgehog can go super that was izuka. That was funny enough what the super knuckles line in frontiers is tried to say "maybe super knuckles is Canon" because knuckles say IF HE WAS SUPER KNUCKLES as if tried to go super for the first time or he meant like he did it before. And also fun fact kishimoto never heard of the male hedgehog go super ever he just don't know what gameplay that would offer

The reason sonic frontiers has so many references is bc it was originally going to be an anniversary game for sonics 30th birthday, but then it got delayed