Would Super Saiyan Blue 2 or Super Saiyan Blue 3 Be Possible?

it's peculiar how dragon ball fans always put more thought into it than its creators themselves

SSJ2 and SSJ3 are feral routes that rely on anger, contrary to God-forms which rely on calm mind and control over oneself

I refuse to believe vegeta's blue evolution isn't just super saiyan blue 2

Yes because in the promotional anime Dragon Ball Heroes Crimson Masked Saiyan(Goku Black), went Super Saiyan Rose, Super Saiyan Rose 2, Super Saiyan Rose 3, and Super Saiyan Rose Full Power. So yes it is possible.

Technically it's possible but, and that's a big but, the amount of strain that it would put on Goku would most likely kill him if he did it now in the series. However if Goku mastered SS2 and 3 like he did in the Cell arc then it would be very possible.

6:24 True but Super Saiyan 2 is literally a better version of Super Saiyan overall, no matter how strong SSJ is SSJ2 would be stronger. If they mastered 2 with no ki drain then used god ki to make it blue 2, it would overall be better than blue. Now if Goku managed to master SSJ3 somehow then blue would be just like how original SSJ1 is. The real reason blue 2 isn't a thing is because theres probably a threshold of power for them to reach beyond blue. Think about it, Goku couldnt stack ssj originally with ssjg, he needed to train to do so. So what if he needs to be a certain level in base to pull that off? In the manga they have multiple versions of Blue but no blue 2, if ui didnt exist it would've been their next step in evolution Now on the kaioken argument: true Kaioken blue doesnt make them useless but imagine Blue 2 kaioken x20, or SSJ3 Blue kaioken x20, blue 3 x 20 would probably be ui omen level if he managed to master SSJ3(idk why he hadn't he has a HTC to train in but chooses to leave it as it is. I hope gotenks does master it though) Blue in general makes any form before it useless but the forms before helps you scale how stronge the person is. imagine an enemy thats blue 3 level and he needs mui, it would be way easier to scale how strong someone is, with blue its pretty vague because ROF blue is way different than TOP blue in power. It eould just be cool if we had a multiplier for ssg

I think Red is SSJ1, Blue is SSJ2, and Blue 2 is SSJ3. I don't think Red is just him using a different type of Ki, be cause it's said that that ki is now apart of him, and he uses it in base form. It would be interesting if Beast was just Blue 2 (AKA, SSJ White). SSJ1, SSJ2, SSJ3. Red, Blue, White. It's just like fire, going from red, to blue, to white.

Great points here, especially the one about the kaioken multiplier basically exceeding the multiplier of ss2 and ss3 combined. Great explanation man.

If you look at in the normal multipliers it would be 2x and 8x. If you consider blue evolution as a grade 2 ssj1 variant then 2 and 3 would or should have WAY better multipliers at a logical reasoning. But ego and ui may still surpass them.

ssj2 n ssj3 POWER outlet would not be worth the trade off as it would be harder to maintain blue due to the fact that these forms let power escape hence the reason in duration of maintaining these forms are a lot shorter then ssj1. notice majority of fights they do not stay in ss2 or ss3 for very long. and revert to base form, while ssj1 they only seem 2 revert to base form when knocked out.

SSJ3 is 8x stronger than SSJ... So SSJB3 = SSJBKKx8 < SSJBKKx20

It would have become so convoluted to simply recolor all of the super Saiyan transformations and the writers probably realized that

Ssjb2/3 is the same principle as ssjb due to them mixing god ki with super sayian so all goku has to do is add ssj2 to god ki and boom

Well, yeah it's possible. Blue Evolved is Super Vegeta but with God Ki. Same with Goku Black in heroes using Rosé 3

Actually it’s possible cause ssjbe is the equal to ssjb kaioken x20 Kaioken x2 (or just kaioken) ion top of ssjb is the EXACT EQUAL TO SSJBLUE 2 Kaioken X8 on top of ssjblue is the equal of ssjblue 3 Ssjblue evolution and kaioken x20 on top of ssjblue is the equal to what would be greta but blue

There isn’t a reason to try and achieve further transformations, you’d need an enemy like Cell that nobody can touch, what Vegeta and Goku would probably do is just fuse though which would yield much more power than SSJ2 or 3.

You are wrong SSB is going SSJ on SSG

maybe ssjblue2 could have been usefull, since it doesn't drain stamina that much, but ssjblue3 would have not been worth it. Tho if goku managed a kaio-khen x20 on ssjblue he probably could have handles a ssjblue3 as well, but ssjblue3 would have only been a 8x on top of ssjblue. By the time they could maybe handled those transformations they already had UI and UE, so not really worth it. Maybe a ssjblue2 with kaiokhen could have worked tho

I feel if that the god forms were be a stronger multiplier then the regular SSJ forms

Yes it possible. Vegeta ss2 blue evolution is just proof it exist. They just didn't want to use it. That's why ultra instinct exist and Vegeta god of destruction form because it will cause them to rethink the original transformations. But instead they chose to make new ones. Super Saiyan 3 and Super Saiyan blue uses too much energy. Like they didn't solve that in the cell saga and Vegeta in the god of destruction saga mastered Super Saiyan 2 to the point where he was stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku. I understand that Goku didn't train as much before that. But still Vegeta being weaker than fat buu and Goku to straight out matching them in that saga is crazy.