The Alt-Right Playbook: Always a Bigger Fish

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Published 2019-03-22
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The primary source for this video is The Reactionary Mind by Corey Robin, which I livetweeted the entirety of here: twitter.com/InnuendoStudios/status/999722728495120…

All Comments (21)
  • @maikerunezumi
    I remember seeing a comment online somewhere that read something like: "If I give a homeless man food, I'm called a saint. If I ask why the man is homeless, I'm called a communist." I just thought of that while watching this video.
  • @CosmicVoid_S
    ...This is hard to listen to as a disabled person According to their ideology, I guess my "place" is dead, because I can't hold a job. Or I'm just meant to hope that someone will be kind enough to give me what I need to get by. Because living, for me, in this ideology, is a gift, not a right Even if they won't admit that to disabled people or to themselves, in practice, what they believe is that people have to earn their right to live. And if they can't, they don't deserve to live at all. The reason they don't have to recon with the reality that they are advocating for the death of people less fortunate than them is because they can always claim those people just "aren't trying hard enough". Which is why they are so commonly bigoted. They have to be, to defend this worldview
  • @sageofsong
    The thing about hierarchical thinking is that nobody ever thinks "I'm too high up on the pyramid"
  • "Because if you're flipping burgers, you're a minnow, and you don't need 15 an hour to be a minnow. But sharks? They deserve all they can get, because they know what to do with it. They use it to give us Amazon. Don't you want Amazon?" This reminds me of when I got into an argument with a copyright lawyer I was interviewing in high school. I was working on a podcast about copyright law, and I wanted to make the argument that the law needs serious reform in order to give artists the freedom they need to make art without fear of being sued by large corporations for copyright infringement. I forget the specifics, but I think I started asking the lawyer why copyright protection should last as long as it does (life of the author plus 70 years, which seemed absurdly long to me and still does). I wasn't satisfied with his answer, so we started to go back and forth a little. After a while, he finally said something to this effect: "You like Star Wars, right? Well, we're not going to get another Star Wars if Disney thinks they won't be able to make a profit on the intellectual property for long enough. And don't you want another Star Wars?" I didn't know how to respond at the time, so I let it go and moved on with the interview. But that always stuck with me. Now I feel like I have a better framework for understanding how we got into that argument: I was coming at it from a democratic point of view, and he was coming at it as a capitalist. I wanted power to be more evenly distributed among artists, but he wanted it to stay the way it was, because in his mind, Disney had proven that they knew best what to do with it. Don't you want another Star Wars?
  • @paradactyl3729
    "The good times were always about thirty years ago." Coincidentally, that's about how long it takes for your children to grow up and start calling you out on your b.s.
  • @misterrreco2535
    "When you vote with your dollar, people with more dollars get more votes" Why had I never considered this wtf
  • Ex-conservative, I can confirm this is true. You're led to believe the hierarchy is an essential part of life
  • Fun fact my mother paid for her nursing degree by waiting tables for 1 summer in Canada and I am still paying off my student loans from 10 years ago
  • @jjmah7
    The fake conservative debated way, WAY better than any conservative I’ve ever met in real life.
  • @telophasemusic
    Buddy of mine at my old job always said "people oughta know their place" when it came to economic class. Funny thing is that we both worked in a grocery store at minimum wage.
  • @deliriumsd142
    "Conservatives still stand for democracy" I don't know about that. "If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”—David Frum
  • @Katxune
    I really hate the idea of someone's entire life's value being determined by the amount of work they can do. It may not apply to everyone, but our society/culture is all built around work work work and doesn't include for people doing what they love or people who cant work.
  • "look at alpha wolves" alpha wolves were disproven by the scientist who originally published the book on them
  • @gyrosphinx
    Also, voting with your money, only works when you make enough money to choose where to spend it.
  • The hierarchy becomes very visible when you inhabit multiple spots on it (i.e being queer or disabled). When I pass as male (being already white) the deference I get is shocking. When I don't pass and am viewed as a white woman, I'm treated as a human being at the least. When I'm clocked as trans, it's like i've got an open season sign hanging around my neck
  • @samueltukua3061
    Just reminds me of playing card games with people who are conservative and leftist. If the game was mostly up to chance, then I would occasionally complain when I got a really bad hand. With my leftist friends, they would usually say "yeah, the game is pretty random chance based" even when winning. They might also fall silent, but they would never insult me. However, when playing with conservative I noticed that they always will say something along the lines of "you're just upset cause you're not good enough at the game". They always had a tendency to believe that any advantage they had must have been because of their strategy and never from random chance even if the game was rooted in random chance
  • @th3b1rdbra1n3
    “No socialist would call that Socialism.” Truer words are rare, out here. They will never understand.
  • @dynogems
    I had a falling out with an old coworker as we ended up on different sides of the political spectrum. He said something to me that I didn't get why he thought this until watching this video. We were talking about equal rights and why he was actually against it. He said "You don't understand. In order for everyone else to get rights, it means I have to lose. There always has to be a loser." Ppl on the right believe there always has to be a loser so they're against anything that could be considered a "handout' as someone else will lose unfairly. What they fail to see is that that shit's being going on since America was a country. Ppl have won and lost unfairly due to patriarchy, class warfare and all sorts of shit.
  • @Dis_Dis
    "Consider the lobster" That could be the funniest sh*t I've ever heard.