I've tried 4 split keyboards. Which is best?

Published 2023-11-24
In this video, I compare 4 split mechanical keyboards: The Moonlander Mark I, The Voyager, The Glove80, and the Kinesis Advantage 360 Pro. Hopefully, this video will give you a better idea on which of these keyboards would be best for you.

Moonlander Mark I: www.zsa.io/moonlander
The Voyager: www.zsa.io/voyager/
Glove80: www.moergo.com/collections/glove80-keyboards
Kinesis Advantage: kinesis-ergo.com/products/#keyboards

Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:59 - Keyboards overview
2:20 - Questions to ask yourself
3:02 - Kinesis Advantage 360 Pro
5:29 - Moonlander Mark I
7:34 - The Voyager
9:42 - Benefits of small layouts
11:26 - The Glove80
11:55 - Gaming on the Glove80
13:36 - RSI problems
15:27 - Homerow mods on QMK vs ZMK
17:11 - Bluetooth
17:40 - Final thoughts and recap
18:48 - Outro

All Comments (21)
  • @tuures.5167
    0:15 Youch, I didn't expect to be so mercilessly called out to start off this video!
  • This video could not have come at a better time for me! Looking forward to watching
  • @darcsentor
    Long time suffer from RSI here. What helped for me a lot was getting the monitor height right, the neck/shoulders can put lot of pressure on the nerves in your arms, which leads to wrists pain. Did a lot of yoga and Alexander technique which helped a lot too. Best mouse I have found so far is a contour mouse, they help put your wrist in a more neutral position. Keyboard wise I’m really loving the 360, but I’m using a 36 key layout on it, the reduced finger movement and stretching has reduced my pain levels to the best ever. Tried the flat split keyboard but can quickly feel a flare up coming. The key wells and tenting on the 360 are awesome. Hopefully one day I’ll try out the glove 80. Keep up the great content 😊
  • @joshuawagner31
    I think one of the main resons the Kinesis brand does well is that they are in corporate accounts. I needed to get ergo and my employeer was only setup with a few brands - I just ended up on the Kinesis Adv Pro. I really wanted the Glove80 but it was not in any of my options. I had the same experience as you - the day I switched my RSI was gone. It was amazing. It has given me my life back.
  • @3_letter_animal
    Glad I found this video; I am on the lookout for my next keyboard, coming from a long-time RealForce enjoyer. Didn't even know most of those styles exist. ty!
  • I think you’ve convinced me to try the Glove80. I want to make the transition to split keyboards. I like the design of the voyager but it might be too difficult as new in this area. Thank you great video!!
  • @markfelton3484
    love your ergo keyboard videos. keep them coming! big fan
  • @riadhelhammi8104
    Great vid, thank you! Would've loves to see some b-rolls of you typing on these keyboards.
  • @SepulvedaBlvd
    Thanks for adding a new video over the long weekend, I love this topic! I like your reviews because you are a programmer like me so you appreciate larger numbers of keys. For me, the main step in getting rid of my RSI was getting an Evoluent Vertical mouse. I tried some fancier ones and cheaper ones, but none of them worked for me. There are two topics that I've never seen mentioned in any video comments or forums: 1. I like the fact that Oryx allows you to program the LED colors for each key, because I like to change these per layer. For instance, I have a gaming/number key layer and when I use this it highlights "easf", as you mentioned, on the left hand, while creating a 9 number layout on the right hand. Each of my layers have different color coding which is the main reason I haven't switched over to the Glove 80. The rainbow fade is pretty, but not utilitarian. 2. Why is it that contoured keyboard users that use the Voyager don't get RSI? Well, I think that it is because the columnar layout on the Voyager is more vertically staggered and closer to matching people's actual finger lengths than the Moonlander was. When you lay your fingers down flat on it, your main 4 digits line up more accurately with the keys and so you don't need to cup your fingers anymore. Because of this, I've come to a theory that if manufactures measured the finger lengths and made different sizes of keyboard for different sizes of hands, that would make flat keyboards like the ZSAs totally acceptable.
  • @joyQuery
    awesome video man -- super thorough and honest -- love to see it!
  • @yothebob8162
    It's always interesting to see the different ways developers tackle RSI. At work I use a Leopold keyboard and bind the caps lock to control (emacs user). At home ironically I have a red dragon blue switch keyboard and I don't need to modify anything. Love your videos!
  • @NocFree
    Thanks for the fantastic content on split keyboards! Your reviews and comparisons are incredibly helpful. I'm curious, do you primarily focus on columnar layout, or are you open to trying staggered ones? We've chosen a staggered layout for our first keyboard with the aim of encouraging more people to give them a try. Your insights on different layouts would be invaluable to us.
  • @josephw7950
    In the process of having work either get a glove80, moonlander, or advantage 360. Perfect timing to help with the decision next week!
  • @JosephLeeHS
    Thanks for the reviews. Coming from the Corne keyboard, the two thumb keys put me off the Voyager. However, I just noticed Oryx supports combo keys now, and I will be testing if I can configure the 3rd thumb key by pressing the 2 keys.
  • @alinagy
    20 seconds into the video and the man has confronted me with my purchasing obsession.
  • @chrome102
    Oryx is the reason why I got my first split keyboard as the Voyager, I think it is trully underrated and the team keeps updating it giving us more features. (Also I work in a hybrid model so portablity is really important to me)
  • @jmnoob1337
    Thank you for the in-depth reviews! I'm looking for a split keyboard to help my shoulders/neck, and some occasional wrist/finger pain (usually after gaming a lot, which I don't do as much now but still sometimes). Leaning towards the Glove80 now after some research. Previously was interested in the Advantage360 introduced by ThePrimeagen, but read an article about how Glove80 is designed even better re: the curve and the heights and the keycaps and the key angles. And your video solidified my choice! ~12:30 I like ESDF, since the hand sits where it ought to for typing. But have to remap a bunch of bindings. Or use WASD but without using the index finger (use other 3 fingers), so again the hand can sit in the correct spot, but could be hard on the pinky!
  • @ggsmitty
    yo i love the vid, super informative thanks! (probably gonna start with the Moonlander). Just wanted to say, I'm not sure what you goals are with the channel but I would for sure link to each of the keyboards in the description (i looked to check them out individually on their company websites (bonus if they were affiliate links!)). also, linking the to the other keyboard-specific videos would probably help drive views on those as well (added benefit if you also throw links to the respective keyboard in each of those videos as well. anyway cheers!
  • @Cruzylife
    Got my glove 80 because of ur recommendation I love it. No more RSI