Dragon Ball's Most Confusing Form

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Published 2023-08-05
What is Super Saiyan God? Who is the original Super Saiyan God? Find out how these answers have changed over time as I go over Super Saiyan God's weird history.

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Super Saiyan God is the form that opened up the world of modern Dragon Ball. Gods of Destruction, Angels, other Universes, and God Ki, but what is it? Obviously, it’s a base Saiyan using God Ki. But what is Super Saiyan God ACTUALLY? Who was the original Super Saiyan God? Well, this form has a weird history filled with retcons.
In Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods, Dragon Ball Super, Akira Toriyama interviews, and retcons surrounding all of them - the history of the Super Saiyan God form is far more interesting and convoluted than you may have realized.

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All Comments (21)
  • @invincible4u
    Super Saiyan God is so cool yet under-utilised, I really like how it was done in the manga though with Vegeta using it against Goku Black
  • @Fppiq
    One of the most underrated forms that was heavily sidelined once SSJB made its debut, glad to see it still has relevance 10 years after it’s debut
  • Favorite form in Dragon Ball. The uniqueness of Goku’s hair not spiking up and him getting skinnier instead sold me on it.
  • @gabiny9235
    I would like to see one movie about Yamoshi and the whole story of the Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan God.
  • @_zifro_
    Super Saiyan God has very confusing lore, but was also underused. I kind of wish they used it more in Super. (thankfully Broly added more use of it) Also it would be cool to see an explanation of what the Legendary Super Saiyan is. Of course Z Broly is the LSS, but that’s non-canon. Super Broly is mainly referred to as a Full Power Saiyan. Also Kale I’m not sure, but an explanation of the Legendary Super Saiyan would be cool!
  • @matti.8465
    Goku being indirectly possessed by the spirit of Yamoshi is a really interesting concept, such a shame the series did nothing with it and God became one of the least utilized transformations.
  • @jacobsib3819
    I'm glad Ssg is getting the respect it deserves
  • @longshotpc7312
    I actually love how this turned out, combining both the Legendary Super Saiyan my this with the Super Saiyan God origin. It feels all interconnected and more meaningful than two separate legends that aren’t related at all, which is what I had assumed in the first place. Great job as always!
  • @kalengamer
    I don’t think anyone ever mentions this but i love your editing style
  • @OGPepsiman
    I personally believe before SSGSS was introduced, they should’ve done SSGE like in that one sprite animation, so they master their forms completely before they go further beyond. Blue could’ve been discovered in the Black arc, and God Evolution would’ve been discovered during ROF.
  • @merchantziro4285
    Honestly Yamoshi has the most inconsistent history across the entirety of Dragon Ball and that makes me really like him as an in-universe mythological character. He's so open to interpretation In the Toei Anime timeline with GT Elder Kai apparently has knowledge and recognition of the Super Saiyan 4 transformation despite being sealed for millions of years. And in filler previously seen on Namek, Vegeta talks about the previous Super Saiyan which shows a Golden Great Ape which seemingly was responsible for Planet Sadala's destruction. The GT Perfect Files supports by stating that the Golden Great Ape form appears to be the Super Saiyan form from the legends, and also go on to mention that Super Saiyan 4 might be the form from the legend that Yamoshi utilized. It's also worth noting that there are heavy implications by Paragus and Vegeta the original DBZ Broly movie that the Legendary Super Saiyan form displayed by Broly could very well be the same form in the original legend. So that means Yamoshi could have been the legendary Super Saiyan, the Legendary Super Saiyan, a Golden Great Ape turned Super Saiyan 4, or a Super Saiyan God. Clearly he has lived a very, very interesting life.
  • Super Saiyan God is my favorite form and it sucks to see it get overshadowed so quickly. I wish it was used a lot more.
  • @Soul-bflol
    Finally it's here! It was worth the wait as always. The way Carthy explains DBZ lore is so relaxing and sprinkles his opinion here and there which is just perfect.
  • @YuviYuvi-fb6rv
    Another deep dive into Dragon ball from carthu keep up the good work
  • @blur7491
    7:35 I do not think it was cut, but rather retconned in the manga continuity. Trunks outright states that Goku and Vegeta's base forms have barely increased since the events of the Cell Saga (and those base power levels barely changed between Cell and Buu too, as Goku barely managed to reach Cell Games Gohan level in 7 years while Vegeta still needed the babidi boost), which means that Goku and Vegeta have never absorbed God ki in the manga but rather can tap in to its power in their base forms similar to Goku doing the same for the Ui technique. Overall in the manga, the lines between technique and form is very blurry.
  • Super Saiyan God definitely should have gotten a whole lot more screen time, seeing as how it's the very same form that started it all for Dragon Ball Super. Super Saiyan Blue had been portrayed very horribly ever since the Dragon Ball Super anime.