What if Hostile Aliens Find Voyagers' Golden Records?
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Published 2024-03-09
In this video, we delve into the fascinating background of the Golden Records and the debates that have surrounded their creation. From the optimistic visions of their creators to the chilling Dark Forest hypothesis, we examine the potential risks of signaling our presence in the universe. With insights from renowned thinkers like Stephen Hawking, we explore the paradoxical nature of seeking contact with the cosmos. Could our cosmic calling card lead to unforeseen consequences?
As we ponder the balance between curiosity and caution, join us in reflecting on the significance of the Golden Records and the endless possibilities of cosmic exploration. Are we prepared for the potential outcomes of our interstellar outreach? Watch now to journey through the captivating narrative of humanity's quest to connect with the vast, unknown universe.
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All Comments (21)
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As a seasoned Stellaris player, I know that the 3 most probable outcomes for a primitive civilization such as our own are: 1. We meet a hostile advanced alien species and things go very badly for us. 2. We meet a friendly advanced species that helps us prosper & take our place in the galactic community. 3. We cause our own extinction before first contact via toxic pollution or nuclear war. Seems like we're on track for number 3 so far...
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If they find voyager I don’t think the disk matters much anyways lol
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I think the chances of aliens detecting the voyager probes is infinitesimal therefore not a concern
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Great vid. The thing that will anger the aliens who find the Golden Record is that even though it is free, the aliens are obligated to buy ten more records at regular club prices over the following two years! 😅
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After all this time, the voyager probes are still only 18 light hours from earth. Our radio bubble has traveled about 129 light years and has reached about 75 of the closest stars. That's 75 stars out of the 100 billion in our galaxy. It will take another 17,500 years before the voyager probes make it to 1 light year away from the earth. We are far more likely to develop new propulsion technology and recover the probes ourselves than them ever being discovered by aliens.
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Given that matter cannot travel faster than the speed of light, and light-speed is a very slow way to travel in interstellar space, the likelihood of aliens ever reaching us is beyond remote. By the time aliens find it, our Earth (and quite possibly our entire solar system) will probably have long ceased to exist - still, they'll know someone else was here
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Isn’t our presence already traveling at light speed through the universe by means of our radio and tv signals?
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I am old enough to remember this launch and Carl Sagan doing a lot of press about the records. There wasn’t much talk of it being a bad idea or a map for conquerers to find us. It seems indicative of our current doom and gloom mood that more people now assume aliens will be malicious. We see doom everywhere now.
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It's irrelevant. Any sufficiently advanced civilization that encounters the Voyagers will easily extrapolate its origin simply by the trajectory its on. I'd be more worried about the senseless drivel we've been broadcasting for the last hundred years. That's already hundred light years ahead of the Voyagers.
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They're going to say send more chuck berry
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Haven''t watched the video yet, but I am going to say No to destroying the Golden Records... This is because we have already been sending radio waves into space and deep space for over 70 years.
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We’re judging the cosmos by our own low standards. Just because humans are aresholes it doesn’t mean the rest of the living universe is!
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Any space-faring civilization would be able to determine Voyager's origin by analyzing its trajectory back to our star. The records only identify the exact planet. Even so, they could determine the most habitable planet without the record.
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They haven't even left. They've barely backed out of the driveway. This isn't a concern. Earth is lit up like a beacon itself.
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It's a lot easier to detect life on Earth from thousands of light year away than to detect Voyager from the same distance. Voyager is not our problem in the dark forest scenario.
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Space if just so big , Idk if we will ever physically discover other life but , we def might discover their A.i first
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I mean if the Dark Forest Theory is real, then yes the golden record should have never been created.
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I think we have a better chance of inventing light speed travel and going and retrieving voyager 1 and 2 ourselves before any other intelligent life finds these.
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Finding intelligent life in the vastness of space, is way harder than finding a pin in the Pacific Ocean.
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If they've figured out Lightspeed travel, or using wormholes, they certainly will have figured out unlimited energy sources. This means the entities will have tech which allows them to recycle all of their resources. These aliens would also be able to mine asteroids and planets for additional resources. All that probably means that they will have no need to exploit us, a very technologically young civilization.
