Naval Ravikant explains why you don't need to be CEO
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Published 2021-10-24
Naval explains how he realized it wasn't the role he wanted at AngelList, what he did to get over his fear of stepping back, and how much more value he can (and does) create now that he is no longer in that role.
If you don't love being CEO, know that there is likely someone who can do the job better than you, and you can create much more value in the role that you actually love.
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FULL AUDIO 🎧
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CHAPTERS 📖
Lesson #1: Why you don't need to be CEO
00:00 Intro
00:46 CEO roles
1:52 Being honest with yourself
Lesson #2: Focus on your Zone of Genius
3:00 Finding your Zone of Genius
4:02 Good people who make you miserable
Lesson #3: Finding the founder mentality
4:30 Recruiting other founders
Lesson #4: Learning to take a step back
6:57 The value of free time
10:17 Successful examples
Lesson #5: Keeping yourself engaged after leaving
11:07 Make it sustainable
13:15 Letting the title go
Lesson #6: Handling the fear of walking away
14:05 How Naval feels now
16:04 No more compromises
Lesson #7: Helpful hacks to live by
17:27 Controlling your time
20:22 Closing thoughts
RESOURCES ✨
- Zone of Genius: docs.google.com/document/d/11UVWJox31Ani8Cq6Ymhm6D…
-CEO Role:
docs.google.com/document/d/1yJhwYFf6Af0h8_xMDuKeW8…
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All Comments (21)
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Check out the latest interview: https://youtu.be/Olze6vMqfso
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If I could speak like Naval, I would never shut up
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"I dont wanna do this, and because I dont wanna do this, i won't be good at it" This just hit me.
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I can’t believe how underrated this channel is, thank you so much for putting this stuff out for free
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The nugget about the truth coming out the 2nd/3rd/4th instance you press for it is so true. I'm writing this comment so I remember it in the future. Thanks for illuminating it! Great interview
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This is why I believe in Founder-Lifestyle-Product-Market Fit. 🖤
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Thanks Matt and Naval. You guys rocked! Super enriched listening to you.
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Great conversation. Hope you have Naval on again. Wishing you the best with your channel.
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Incredible amounts of wisdom, and as an introvert solopreneur....very helpful and a bit contrasting to the typical "hustle culture" advice to wear a thousand hats. Thanks both of you.
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I fugured this out the hard way. Being the boss and burning out. This is the first time I've heard someone else say this in public.
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Why am I just discovering your channel now…this is amazing Matt 🙌🏽 Subscribed and will be binging everything thank you 🙏🏼
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OMG, THIS! So much fire and wisdom in this conversation.
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This was a life changing discussion. Thanks Matt & Naval for doing this :)
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Naval excellent as always. Thank you both great interview and Matts book seems like a must-read. I"ll be checking it out asap.
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This was a fantastic interview, Matt! You deserve more subscribers 💯 I agree with your comment about how Naval articulates his thoughts well enough that it could be a book. My top two takeaways: 1) From you - ask for a preview before scheduling a call as time can often be saved with a text/email reply 2) From Naval - if you probe deep enough, the last reason is the true reason for declining (the sale/pitch offer). The first reason is usually superficial. Thanks a lot, gents. Today, I learnt loads about business, psychology and enjoying life. Cheers 🤝🏼
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Thank you !
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Great episode. I love Naval's authenticity. A great human being. Thanks for doing this.
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Wow, thank you so much for this. Boredom helps creativity.. flip the problem on its head and then just wait for the subconscious to do its job. Amazing !!
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Very insightful indeed!! Thank you so much.
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True. What an impressive audiobook .!!