2017 Maps of Meaning 03: Marionettes and Individuals (Part 2)

I from small poor city in Russia and i listen this amazing lecture without paying any money. My environment so ignorance, but you help me improve my knowledge, I'm so happy! Thank you very much Professor Peterson!

"Do not practice what you do not want to become." A day to day mantra for sure.

"Anything you let win the internal argument – grows. And anything you let be defeated – shrinks. ‘Cause it’s punished, it doesn’t get to have its way. So that’s another thing really to remember. Don’t practice what you do not want to become.“ Jordan B. Peterson Just brilliant.

Jordan, recently watched you on Ben Shapiro's show, "Why Don't Leftists Like Facts?" and was reminded of the first time I was introduced to you on his show. I was infatuated with your message to young men about, 'growing the hell up' and, 'willfully accepting responsibility'. 'Marionettes and Individuals' was the first lecture I watched from your 2017 Maps of Meaning series. It has been almost a full year since I started applying your advice to my life and I have done a complete 180. I graduated from a small private Christian college in 2021 with incredibly low self esteem. I majored in architecture and landed a job in downtown Chicago working for a small firm. Weekends, drugs, alcohol, and girls were the only things I found enjoyment in. I had fully embraced nihilism for about two years and was continuing to turn my back on all my morals and values. With student debt looming over my head I did not have an immediate plan to pay off my loans, intending to drag payments out into my 30's. Support from my parents was barren, the stable relationship I once found comfort in was shattered my Junior year of college when my father was banished from the house. My relationship with both parents deteriorated. I finally woke up when my girlfriend at the time dumped me, claiming the faith based morals I said to value were not evident in the way I lived my life (ouch...). Since, it has been a 'sprint out of hell' so to speak and I worked rigorously to flush out the dragons in my life (and there were A LOT). A year later I am sacrificing my love for architecture to repay my student loans. I landed a job as a deckhand on a salmon fishing boat in Alaska, (much different from architecture...) I will be working 3 months in the Bering Sea in hopes to pay off ALL my loans in one summer. Immediately following my return from Alaska I will begin OCS training in hopes to become a Commissioned Officer in the Navy. My ambitions to enlist are driven by my desire to fulfil a truly meaningful purpose; serving others rather than myself. Furthermore, I have also been fortunate enough to reestablish a relationship with BOTH my parents. Most meaningful of all, I have once again found value in my relationship with Christ and wrestle willingly with the 'burden of being' everyday. Simple thanks does not seem adequate enough for the impact you have had on my life. I encourage you to continue your journey, lecturing/preaching to yearning minds. You have made a tremendous impact on an impressionable 23 year old.

"Be more afraid of not pursuing your goals than pursuing them." Great advice Dr Pete!

"Don't do anything for anyone that they can do for themselves." My agreeable nature has ruined my princess daughter. Thanks for the clarity.

Jordan Peterson's program changed my life.

Having not grown up with a Dad, this is the sort of Dad advice I have been missing. Very pragmatic and realistic. Much needed.

Simply on spot: ( 18.30 ) „If you wanna do something that‘s difficult and that requires energy, a lot of different subsystems in your mind are gonna throw up objections. It‘s like: well, maybe that isn‘t what you should be doing right now, maybe you should be doing the dishes, or vacuuming or watching TV or looking at youtube or... if you are really sneaky, when you are trying to do something hard what your brain does is give you something else hard to do, that‘s not quite as hard, so that you can feel justified in not doing the thing you are supposed to, ‘cause you are doing something else useful. And if you give in to that temptation, which you often will, then it wins, and because it wins, it gets a little dopamine kick and it grows stronger. Anything you let win the internal argument – grows. And anything you let be defeated – shrinks. ‘Cause it’s punished, it doesn’t get to have its way. So that’s another thing really to remember. Don’t practice what you do not want to become.“ Jordan B. Peterson

I love how all you have to do is ask this man one question and boom you've been given the meaning of life. Legendary.

6:43 - Note on a possible way that Anku could be defeated. (No matter how powerful you are as an individual, two individuals three quarters of your power could defeat you.) 13:16 - Choosing to suffer or face difficult challenges is much better for you (psychophysiologically) than having threats/challenges that chase you. 19:00 - How your brain tricks you into thinking your doing something hard, while avoiding the initial hard/difficult task that you set out to do. 20:55 - Children love 'rough and tumble' play. (Playful physical wrestling to develop some finesse and awareness for the child.) 23:54 - Depriving juveniles from engaging in rough and tumble play leads to their prefrontal cortexes not developing properly. Then they become impulsive and restless, which is generally treated with drugs (methylphenidate or ritalin). Mostly males. Their ability to become social is being impaired, possibly neurologically impaired. 25:47 - The best strategy (for basically any interaction). 27:50 - Morality is present before the representation of morality. (morality emerged before linguistics was developed). 35:54 - Your fantasies could suggests something to you that you did not want to know you wanted. 36:22 - (During an interaction with someone) Picking up on small changes or reactions in someone's expression or emotion, which tells you something has flitted through their mind and you have touched on something that has a multiplicity of elements. When you notice someone else grabbing those new thoughts that have entered their field of consciousness, then you can often figure out the avenues along which that particular conversation might unfold. (I'm thinking Anku does this tremendously well and with great intent.) 45:10 - Paul Bernardo, Canadian serial killer and rapist. (link to interrogation video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLTAjW5Twlk) 50:05 - The Puppetmaster (Anku). Who is actually in control? What do you actually want? What's actually going on? (Looking at peoples eyes can be an indication (your eyes speak the truth, unless you can control them really well)) 53:00 to 1:03:00 - Important section that i have to come back to (note reminder). 1:06:30 - The temptation of the social world. 1:20:38 - You can trust people who blush, because their conscience will betray them. (This is perhaps one of Anku's few weaknesses or flaws. It is very minor, since Anku's interactions are usually very direct and serious, and Anku is very rarely in a position where he has to defend his lies. (Since his lies are so convincing that there is never a chance of him being suspected). But if you study Anku and specifically look for him to blush, you will find that he NEVER does. This indicates, too a degree, that he is not to be trusted. 1:24:40 - Note on Hitler. 1:30:15 - Jordan Peterson on writing his book, the four different types of books, and how to judge success. (Notes for my own books.) 1:32:52 - Tyrants become enraged about minor errors even when things are going well (all things considered). They have no allowance for errors. (This leads to the tyrant always viewing someone as guilty, because if you don't make allowance for error at all, then people are always guilty of something.) 1:38:51 - Why children lie. (funny) Children with higher IQ's learn to lie at a younger age. 1:46:00 - Don't lie to people who are paranoid. If you tell the truth then you don't have to remember what you said. 1:47:28 - Jordan Peterson tells story of intense airport situation. 1:53:34 - Jung's comment on the shadow and choosing malevolence/devious. (You know you're misbehaving by your own standard, and you still do it. It's your own judgement your casting, and the more you look at it the deeper the hole becomes. (This is what happens to Anku)). 2:01:37 - The Coachman and the Fox and Cat. Coachman is the real thing (evil guy), and he sees straight through the Fox and Cat's grandiose and displays of smart manipulators. 2:10:36 - Only being strong will lead to you winning 1 battle, but not 50 battles. Student questions and Jordan Peterson talks about Mesopotamia and Marduk. 2:17:36 - Differences between women and men, how they tackle certain problems in different ways and how they are on average.

Amazing.  Apart from lecturing for two and a half hours off the top of his head, he tries to impart life lessons.

So very many nested tangents yet the Prof never loses track. I had good teachers that went on eternal, interesting tangents, but they ended up eluding the main point of the session. Others kept on track, but were dull. Combining the best of both proficiently is rare.

1:19:49 - "If I remember correctly, the name Adam is related to the capacity to blush" Adam, as it's written in Hebrew "אדם" means "A person/human", but the past tense of "redden" (i.e reddened) is also written as "אדם", and translates directly to "became red". That's probably what you've heard. Regular red in Hebrew is written as "אדום". And blood is written as "דם". Phonetically, the word "Adam" also sounds like "The Blood" (Ha Dam, "הדם") In addition, the word for mankind/human beings is "בני אדם" (Bnei Adam), which translates to "Sons of Adam", but when spoken, it also happens to sound like "Sons of blood". Which is agreeable even if you don't believe in Adam being the first human. Hebrew is very good at giving you the capacity to composite sentences that are agreeable even if you oppose the speaker's intent.

I get up in the morning and the first thought that comes is Dr.Jordan Peterson Lectures. Can't believe they are on youtube for free. I feel blessed...thank you so very much Dr.Peterson

Man,that girl is a machine, she's doing some assignment, playing a game and listening to the lecture :O

This content is just so bloody fascinating ...

This man has an amazing memory, it's incredible how well he recalls things that you can tell he hasn't recently refreshed

I am sitting in my living room, drinking a whisky and I feel like I'm in a classroom listening to the the greatest teacher ever.

It is now 2024, as I am listening to these brilliant (for lack of a better world) lectures and OBVIOUSLY, as Dr. Jordan Peterson often says, and rightly so, they have not lost their value. At the age of 58 I am blown away. Timeless knowledge, insights, inspiration and wisdom. Almost incomprehensible, unbelievable that it is all coming from this one man. The only regret I have is that I wasn't introduced to his teachings a lot, lot sooner. Thank you Dr. Jordan Peterson 🙏🏻