X4 Foundations: 7.0 Beta 3 - Is the age of super carriers gameplay over?

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Published 2024-04-25
Hello everybody,

On this one I wanted to test if I still encounter the issue of fast torpedo bombers getting blown up by their own torpedoes. So, I took my Shark carrier + 40 interceptor Mako + 40 bomber Irukandji, for a combat test.
Well, the bombers had good performance, is just that the smoke and fire effect of delaying the explosion, increased the torpedo consumption, to the point that just 1 xenon I and 2 xenon K exhausted the bomber wing ordonance.
One might say that, well Irukandji is a scout so not much cargo capacity, but it still have 17 heavy torps, while my Chimera torpedo bombers have 21 torps capacity. The only advantage my Chimera torpedo bombers have is that there are 60 on my Raptor, compared to 40 Irukandji on my Shark. So, the Chimera wing ordonance will last longer, but not by much.

And so I wonder...is the age of super carrier + interceptors + torpedo bombers over? We need to, either put Blast Mortars on all our bombers (except the boron) or we will have to rely on...ugh, perish the thought...destroyers?

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All Comments (15)
  • @LegionaryOfRome
    For those reasons, I find blast mortars much more reliable and safe to use, and they require no logistics. I like the usage and concept of torpedoes, tho. 1 torp launcher and 4 thermal disintegrators make the bomber also a fighter as well. But the prices are logistics and more losses... 60 b.m. bombers and 40 interceptors are devastating. Send the interceptors first and let enemy fighters focus on them (they would kill bombers) and after that send the bombers and let them slip by and kill capitals and land to the carrier...
  • @manug2508
    Wait, did they finally manage to get the "anti missile" command for turrets to work as they should/did in x3? That would be kinda nice to be fair! I always felt that turrets were really underwhelming as missile defense... Would be nice to know if pairing them with swarmer missiles to overwhelm the defenses still work as well as it did in previous titles!
  • @davidgjenkins
    maybe they are intending to force a two wave approach with turret killers followed by torps? Fascinating changes. Love the new capital damage progression graphics too.
  • @Army_of_Earth
    Correct me if I'm wrong. So the core issue is that turrets started to prioritize torpedos and this leads to more missile consumptions and that is the showcased issue? Also it seems missiles sometimes explode too early dealing no damage as I didn't see turret fire on them.
  • @lagrangewei
    we just need ramming speed in this game... :)
  • @jv85fr
    Hello, would blast mortar do more damage than plasma weapons on "bomber" fighters? (I always thought plasma would be the go to weapon agaisnt large targets)
  • @RMMinc
    With raptor you can probably just refit fighter wing to also be fighter-bomber variant. Minus 20% fighter dps for 21*60 more torps? Sadly no such option for shark. And seeing how long second K lasted... Damn this going to be expensive endeavour.
  • @Paski303
    Whilst happy and terrified that Xenon turrets are actively shooting missiles, the carrier-inventory always has been a fidgety bit. U dont have full contol on what wares to hold, gotta go thru fidgety management like switching out all the resources for components for HeavyTorps in your instance …. The idea is there XD soon tm ……
  • @phasejumper9112
    I think its bad how they behave now around the XL-Ships. They stay at range instead of doing bombing runs like before. They fly slow around the Ship and the Torpedos wont get the momentum and therefore are very slow. So they shoot way to many that way and most of the Torpedos will get shot.
  • Was it ever a thing? Supercarrier gameplay? Never seen a problem i could not drown in osakas and gunboats
  • @egoaut
    I would say, there was never a time for bombers like Irukanji😂 Better take a Moreya, yes i know your ......But 4x Torpedos is better than 4x Scouts. Maybe its the age of a mix with some Torpedo bomber, like 5x Torp Barracudas and 25x Makis😊