Transformers Rise of The Beasts: Settling The Reboot or Prequel Debate Once and For All

4:14 lol, that b minus reference is pure gold.

Although I grew up with the original Bayverse trilogy, I still believe that bumblebee and Rotb are a reboot, and a necessary one at that

Something that needs to be mentioned is that in the intro to the 2007 movie, optimus said that earth was "an unknown planet". Meaning he never been to earth prior to 2007. Which disproves Lorenzo's statement that the autobots went to earth in the 80's, left earth and came back again in 2007. Further proving the fact that it's a reboot

This video just tells me that Lorenzo di Bonaventura needs to shut up and let Travis Knight and Steven Caple Jr. take the lead in publicity.

I can answer this easily. If Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts are connected to the Bayverse, then why do we have Unicron coming in Rise of the Beasts when Last Knight said he was Earth as reference to Prime?

I’m not gonna lie. Having Megatron in the beginning of Bumblebee would have felt like having a thanos cameo in the first Iron man movie. It would’ve felt premature, and I’m glad they axed the scene regardless of the reason for it

In Bayverse Optimus Prime arrived in 2007. Unicron is Earth. Bumblebee fought Nazis🙄. Bumblebee movie and Rise of the beasts are clearly a reboot like cmon guys…

As someone who grew up with the Bayverse movies, this reboot is absolutely necessary. Towards the end, the Bayverse got REALLY messy in several aspects. And the lore itself is just all over the place Tf1: the Cybertronian war for the Allspark Tf2: The introduction of the 13 Primes and the Matrix Tf3: the introduction of Sentinel Prime and the pillars Tf4: the introduction of the Dinobots and the seed that belongs to the creators Tf5: the introduction of Unicron, Quintessa, the staff and the guardian 12 knights that form a Cybertronian dragon That’s all too damn much and it’s like each movie reveal tries to top the last but lacks good continuity Hopefully this reboot establishes a more clear path and road for new lore

I like the theory of it being a alternate timeline thing where there are constant and variables, things are different but some events and things do remain the same, where Unicron did woke up and is going around the multiverse and the maximals were originally from the bayverse

To me the Bumblebee movie is to Transformers what First Class was to Xmen. It started off as a prequel but will eventually end up splitting the timeline ala Days of Future Past. Rise of the Beasts may very well be that split, since the Maximals are ALWAYS linked to time travel. I think things like the maximals being from "another planet" is a misdirect, likely created by Primal himself to protect Prime from the truth that theyre his decendents. Things like Unicron not being the core of the Earth, Prime et al arriving on Earth way earlier than they shouldve and, if we take the toys into account, already having a matrix of leadership make no sense unless we take into account that the Maximals already split the timeline when they arrived in the past, possibly even before Bumblebee takes place. Imo, ignore ANYTHING Lorenzo says and take the events of the movies themselves as proof.

In my interview with Director Caple, releasing tonight, I bring this question to him. The confusion is really being reinforced by Lorenzo. But I'm going with Director Caple on this one. ROTB is a new direction.

Honestly i think they might make ROTB an alternate timeline of the bayverse, it would keep both fans happy in a way

I saw the trailer for Transformers Rise Of The Beasts and it was amazing. I can’t wait for the movie. Almost time for it to be released in theaters.

The true answer is that it's a reboot Hasbro's just going back and forth on it's placement for marketing reasons. The same thing happened with bumblebee but in reverse the movie was originally planned to be a prequel to the bay film's but Hasbro feared that nobody would show up to watch the movie if it was marketed as a bay film so they turned it into a reboot. Besides if you actually watched bumblebee or any of the trailers for rotb you'd realize that none of the events, storylines, or characters that debuted in those films could fit in the Bayverse and trying to tie them together into one big series would only further damage the continuity of not only the Bayverse but the reboot films too.

Haven't seen it yet but, I'm wondering if it will talk about the whole alternate universe thing. (He didn't) Edit: Alright, pretty sure it was obvious it was a reboot. I mean unless every single bot and con just decided to magically change their design. And Unicron using his godly powers to rewrite history. Tbh, I don't think aoe and tlk should be considered Canon at all. To many continuity errors and plot points that would make it impossible for them to be Canon. For example, the transformers being on earth the whole time. Rotf and dotm did a great job on showing how transformers have been on earth before. But tlk ummm....yeah

I think Paramount not directly stating that the new movies are reboot or not is purely due to financial reasons. ROTB will try to recapture the same success as the Bay movies. If this one will be financially successful then Paramount will officially declare the new movies as a reboot.

It seems like Paramount wanted to keep it vague so they can say it's a reboot while also saying it's not by keeping Megatron out of the picture. That way they can gain new fans into the franchise while also bringing back old Bayverse fans with that syrup of "it's a prequel". The new designs also help keep things fresh and no one would really argue with a mix of Bayverse and G1 designs. In my headcannon, I'd like to think that some events vaguely followed the Bayverse but in an alternate timeline. About Lorenzo, he's just pretty much saying continuity and Bayverse is a problem for future me to think about.

All Transformers movies are apart of a cinematic MULTIVERSE! The Beyverse movies are in a parallel universe from Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts. There. Problem solved. Now somebody PLEASE tell Lorenzo before he does another interview…

if they do connect the new movies to the bay films, i reckon they'll connect it up to DOTM and ignore AOE and TLK

I'm happy they pushed the release date. I would rather wait almost another year to watch a well worked on film than see a rushed, unfinished movie. The wait is going to be worth it.