World's Smallest & Biggest Rimfires — 17 and 22 Calibers
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Published 2021-07-30
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For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion – the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me – from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
All loading, handloading, gunsmithing, shooting and associated activities and demonstrations depicted in our videos are conducted by trained, certified, professional gun handlers, instructors, and shooters for instructional and entertainment purposes only with emphasis on safety and responsible gun handling. Always check at least 3 industry handloading manuals for handloading data, 2 or 3 online ballistic calculators for ballistic data. Do not attempt to duplicate, mimic, or replicate anything you see in our videos. Firearms, ammunition, and constituent parts can be extremely dangerous if not used safely.
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All loading, handloading, gunsmithing, shooting and associated activities and demonstrations depicted in our videos are conducted by trained, certified, professional gun handlers, instructors, and shooters for instructional and entertainment purposes only with emphasis on safety and responsible gun handling. Always check at least 3 industry handloading manuals for handloading data, 2 or 3 online ballistic calculators for ballistic data. Do not modify any cartridge or firearm beyond what the manufacturer recommends. Do not attempt to duplicate, mimic, or replicate anything you see in our videos. Firearms, ammunition, and constituent parts can be extremely dangerous if not used safely.
All Comments (21)
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Fun fact. The 17hmr was originally developed by a rifle maker in Broken Hill Australia who would buy 22 mag rounds and pull them apart to neck down to 17. He contacted various cartridge makers trying to purchase 22 mag brass but they would not sell to him. After a while of testing he went to a few cartridge manufacturers to try and develop his new cartridge but none would offer any support. Lo and behold shortly after the 17 HMR was released by one of the company's. No recognition given.
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This channel is one more reason why I don't watch TV. Thanks, Ron!
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I’m glad you mentioned the 5mm Remington at the end. I have one that was a wall hanger and dust collector for years until Aquila started making ammo again . The ammo isn’t cheap but I’ve been stocking up little by little in case it becomes unavailable again. I take the money out of my budget for my other bad habits. The only ones unhappy to see 5mm available again are the starlings that hang around my farm buildings.
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"Quite a few people"? Did anyone else catch that at 6:56? Ron said he shoots red fox, raccoon and quite a few people...... that's a hell of a sound bite if you cut it off right at the end of people ;-)
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Thank you Ron, very good show. I have a Ruger 10-22 set up for 100 yards, and a Savage bolt in the .17. Love them both. Great cheap pinker with the wife and kids.
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PSA: 22 LR targets are not rated for 17 HMR I have done the research
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Savage A17 shoots 17 hmr. Excellent reliability, accuracy in an auto loader. Kinda picky about what it shoots best but I’ve been getting 3/4 to 1 inch groups at 75 yards.
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I’ve shot every one of these cartridges, from 22 Short, ,22 Long Rifle, 22 Magnum, 17 HMR, & 17 WSM. In my opinion, if you’re looking for the best all-around rimfire cartridge, .22 Magnum is the one.
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Love your analogy and breakdown of the small and large Rimfire cartridges. You definitely taught me a few things. Awesome, and thank you for sharing your knowledge and your passion.
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Great video Ron, I love the .22lr but for me with the added range and knock down power the 17 hmr is very impressive and my go to rifle for small game. The CCI 20gn gamepoint ammo is brilliant as it opens up but still drills holes. I have punched holes through 4mm mild steel plates with it.
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If you're considering which way to go for small game, you won't go wrong with the .17 HMR. I have one and the accuracy and range is far beyond what the tiny round should be capable of. It's ability to humanely dispatch varmint is also exceptional.
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The 5mm Remington is an amazing round. I read that Remington wouldn't release the patent on the ammo. That's why it did not take off. I love my 5mm and all my rimfires. Thanks for a great video.
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I'm really surprised there isn't a lever action in that WSM with a box magazine. That oughta be a great combination...faster than a bolt gun without the issues of an autoloader.
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Ron, thank you very kindly for your videos. I've spent considerable time watching these as well as the old Legends stuff. Fan for sure. It'd sure be cool to watch you do some more shooting!
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Ron, I have a Love/Hate relationship with your videos. I love them because they're so informative and well done. I hate them because every time I watch one of your videos I find myself wanting another gun. Great video, thanks for sharing. JT
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Again, another well done , fact based presentation Ron. I appreciate the way you weave in useful information such as the spinning of the cartridge to settle the priming compound. Keep up the good work.
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I own quite a few rimfires as well as a Savage A17 Heavy Barrel chambered in 17HMR. Absolutely love this little rifle, lights out accurate and have not had any repeating issues as long as I run quality ammo.
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About the 22WMR and the accuracy of the same. I have an Anshutz 1518 Mannlicher with the double set triggers. When I bought it in Germany, it was a pleasure to shoot, and very accurate. When I got it back to the World, I enjoyed shooting it with a Weaver B4 scope, seeing three-quarter inch, five shot groups. Then, I ran out of RWS ammo, and could not find any more. Tried Winchester (the inventer, remember?) Instant 3 inch, 3 shot groups. I put the gun away for almost 20 years. When CCI came out with the MaxiMag+V, it was magical. Now I have RWS and CCI. Moral: Ammunition choice is critical to be able to maximize accuracy. The WMR can be very accurate.
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Really enjoying these calibre reviews mate
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.22 Magnum is an excellent round out to 125-150 yards. Beyond that range I will reach for a .223 or .22-250.
