Rick Rubin — Magic, Everyday Mystery, and Getting Creative

Published 2023-03-16
The flow and the ingredients by which an idea becomes an offering — and life practices which call that alchemy forth. The mystery of it all that can only be named and wondered at — and the ordinary mystery that creativity is a human birthright, a way of being rather than doing, that beckons to us all, in everything we do, from crafting something to conversing to the arranging of furniture in a room.

This is where Krista goes with the rock star music producer Rick Rubin. It's not a conversation about the creative process of the many great musicians he's worked with — but a conversation that is for and about us all.

There are some surprises, too, in his lovely, soothing voice — like the way he finds a metaphor for all of life in pro wrestling. And he leaves the doors of his studio wide open as they speak, so there is a soundtrack of ocean waves.

ABOUT
Rick Rubin has been a singular, transformative creative muse for artists across genres and generations — from the ‪@BeastieBoys‬ to Johnny Cash, from Public Enemy to the ‪@RedHotChiliPeppers‬ from ‪@adele‬ to Jay-Z. To name just a few. His new (and first) book is "The Creative Act: A Way of Being". He is co-founder of the record label Def Jam Recordings, and former co-president of Columbia Records. He is also one of the hosts of the podcast, "Broken Record".

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All Comments (21)
  • @pietrusso
    Rick just casually drops the meaning of life "Being human is enjoying what you enjoy and sharing what you see."
  • "I think when you really listen to someone they act differently and I think most people are not used to being heard" - Rick Rubin spitting truth
  • @RiverPaisley
    I’ve noticed in all of Rick’s interviews his listening (*active listening*) is so much deeper than the interviewers and I have to wonder what that is like for him. I hope he has people in his life who listen as deeply to him as he does to others.
  • @genesilvers1
    I Grew up with Rick, I fact he was my closest friend for a few years, we slept over each others houses when we were kids learning magic. we formed a magic clube in Long Beach and did a show in High School together.. .he lived in Lido Beach actually, I'm from Long Beach...I live in LA now and would love to get a message to him... , Last time I saw him was at his Bar Mitzvah in Upstate NY. My name is Gene Silberman..
  • "What do I find beautiful today that I didn't notice yesterday?" I love that.
  • @phoenixmode6909
    Rick Rubin is exactly what I needed at this point in my life and journey. I suspect he is what the world needs right now. Welcome to all those who absolutely resonate with and are inspired by Rick. He is a great place for our heads to spend some time with.
  • @squareagle
    "Awareness needs constant refreshing". Simply said. So true!
  • @fromthe4gotten
    I could listen to Rick talk all day!! He is so open minded and truly recognizes the most beautiful things in life in so many forms that it's presented to him.
  • @rebeccajourney3183
    I loved this deep, interesting, and enjoyable interview. I am a very sensitive person and have been criticized by family; however, as an adult I have learned to embrace that aspect of my being and it makes me who I am. ❤ I love deeply❣
  • @joeferris5086
    53:43 David Lynch says the same thing! You don't create the idea, you catch the idea. Just like you don't create the fish. You catch the fish. Its absolutely true. When I write music it feels as if I'm hearing my ideas on a radio from another dimension.
  • @goldenmystik
    When Rick said he had trouble finishing projects due to seeing the additional possibilities in trying other ways of creating/finishing a project. Omg! That made me feel so comforted because I too struggle to finish certain projects due to this same way of thinking and felt like something was wrong with my creative process🙏✨🖤.
  • @JamesDean-O
    He may easily be the most humble person I’ve ever listened to.
  • @JaySpangler
    When documenting a conversation with someone as brilliant and articulate as Rick Rubin, get him going and then step out of the way. Dont just start talking too. Let the brilliant mind of the two of you speak. This is a trap many interviewers fall into, trying to show how they “get it” too much and too often, and with questions so long that the listener begins wishing Rick was still talking. Its unfortunate for this being as good of a document as it might have been. The questions really do get long and rambling pretty often. The “conversation” part is in being a great listener for where to follow the flow next, not just in talking also. I do mean this to be helpful, from a listener perspective. Sometimes this interview is excellent…. But clearly those times will be when Rick Rubin is sharing his insights.
  • @korefaust7260
    Rick, reading your book, was realizing we are not alone. It's difficult to explain that our thoughts are not our own and never have been. Synchronicity is a hell of a drug. True, without falsehood, and certain. A fellow only child;)
  • @stevenaball333
    In bed 10.53pm and winding down from a busy day listening to this is amazing conversation, thank you!
  • @AmandaMG6
    Yeah, the expression as the artist but also as the listener - music entrains our minds and hearts to the beat. It's hypnotic.
  • @cheri238
    Magic conversation ✨️ Thank you both with the deepest appreciation and admiration for your appreciation to artistry.
  • @Soulr
    This might be my favorite Rick interview 🙏✨
  • @christ1666
    Rick is such a genuine dude that the artists he works with try to compete.
  • Every moment listening to the conversation was truly magical! Thank you. 👌