[REAL ATC] Resolution Advisory - COLLISION ALERT - in busy San Francisco!

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Published 2019-11-17
Parallel landings don't always work so good

All Comments (21)
  • @VASAviation
    Gotta say I love our own VASAviation radar representation...
  • @SpicyFaceActual
    For the amount of pairs we make at SFO the amount of RAs we get are generally low. Most of the time during sideby ops the traffic for 28R is on a different frequency than the traffic for 28L. (2 final controllers) We need one pilot to see their pairing traffic before we lose 3 lateral miles or 1000ft vertical separation. Most often both aircraft crew will see each other and pair up nice all the way in without problems. Sometimes one will see the other, but the other is still looking. We will continue to update the traffic but sometimes an RA alerts and they don’t see their pairing traffic that sees them. The FMS bridge visual approach to 28R (not a public publication) and the quiet bridge visual approach to 28R (public) are roughly the same track and are well north of the 28R localizer to help increase the separation between the pair on final until the last minute when both are aligned 750ft apart for their runways. Most RA go arounds I’ve seen are when someone doesn’t fly the FMS or Quiet bridge visual like they are supposed to and heads for the localizer on a charted visual approach. Or when someone starts to drift north or south a little and the other pilot (being on a different frequency) gets a bad feeling about this and starts a climb out of the conflict.
  • @iamt_tl
    I won't be able to handle this stress. even following the radio is making my eyes spin
  • @ghstark
    Good job by the CAL pilot, his responses were timely and understandable and he went around as soon as TCAS alerted him of a potential problem.
  • @taupehat
    Love listening in to SFO Tower when it's busy. They handle such an intense amount of traffic inbound and out and handle it extremely well. Heard more than a couple pilots say "good job" before switching freq.
  • @rzero21
    China Airlines pilot were very professional and calmed. But the SFO controller? Damn, almost a computer giving instructions around! Respect
  • @diaphanoux
    I gotta hand it to SF ATC, they sound so calm, precise and focused. This airport is not a joke folks, the probability for a mid air collision is really high and yet they're, really organized.
  • @ameralhamvi5680
    Following the video is stressful in itself. Shout out to ALL ATCs out there !!
  • @Dan737MASTER
    Been doing survey work recently in the Bay Area (in the departure and arrival paths for OAK, SJC, SFO, etc.) and these controllers are the best to work with. Absolute professionals. Not sure how they do it, but they get us in between the jets like it’s just a normal procedure. We also caused a few TCAS alerts for the airlines as well. All in a day’s work for them!
  • @Cissy2cute
    I will never understand how these controllers are able to do this. It takes a unique talent and a special type of person. It looked like an odd sort of dance watching this. Kudos to the men and women that keep everyone safe.
  • Well in case of doubt 1 go arround isnt something bad, better safe than sorry.
  • @aghandoor
    Love your channel, two private jets involved in runway collision at San Antonio on Friday 11/17
  • I don't know how they maintain their sanity! What a mess, It's unbelievable there aren't more incidents at SFO.
  • @Matt-pd2cq
    I'm glad the pilot followed the RA. It's far better to go around than die.
  • @andyowens5494
    Interesting altitude confirmation towards the end. Busy, busy, busy; tough enough to schedule them all in but the go around clearly added to the controllers workload.
  • in this kinds of approaches to parallel runways the flight crew can switch the TCAS from TA/RA to TA only, also resolution advisorys are usually inhibited when the radio altimeter is less then 900ft, precisely so you dont have to make a go around based on the RA alone, as long as other sepparation parameters havent been breached
  • @rhallnapa
    All this plus they have to deal with Oakland and San Jose traffic also. Not to mention all the GA airports around the bay.
  • @phapnui
    Whew! This gave me flashbacks of Daisy Chains at Ft Wolters, Texas during primary helicopter training from 1969. Imagine all these aircraft you saw displayed didn't have ATC and they all converged at once to land, playing dodge airplane on final approach. Shortly after soloing we were given solo missions to fly around looking for white tires that indicated an easy LZ. Then we'd all head back in our trusty Mattel Messerschmidts (TH-55) to land at the heliport. Sometimes 20 -30 at a time converging on final from all directions. A fine shitshow enjoyed by all...if there were ATC then I don't remember it, too busy dodging.