Why *THOSE TWO* Were MISSING in Future Redeemed (SPOILERS)

After seeing all of your comments, I went back to watch that scene about Riku's master again and I realized the mistake I made. I was reading the line where Riku said "Masterpon of Riku was friend Melly" like this: "Masterpon of Riku was friend OF Melly." I swear I watched that scene like 5 times, but for some reason my brain duplicated "of" and put it where it shouldn't be which caused a HUGE error in my understanding of the dialogue. Not sure why that happened, but that's my bad.

Did we All forget that Pyra and Mythra got that Smash Bros. Invite, they busy right now, lol

Riku's master is Melia. He talks about it at the workshop in FR.

In the dialogue about the lucky seven between matthew and riku inside the workshop, he says that his masterpon was Melia and that she travelled with his father (most likely either Riki or Kino)

My theory is that people like Rex, Nia, Shulk and Melia are biologically immortal inside of Aionios, because it is a world frozen in time. I also think that Alpha was responsible for Pyra and Mythra being MIA.

0:50 she was Pyra’s daughter. People don’t inherit personalities directly from their parents. Glimmer being Mythra’s niece makes perfect sense.

The easiest explanation is usually the most correct. Alpha was unable to manifest at full strength outside of origin. It needed an avatar to exert it's will within Aionios. It would then logically follow that the same is true for the other trinity cores. The fists of the end and the sword of the end use the Pneuma and Logos cores respectfully as becoming those weapons power sources was Mythra and Malos's way of opposing Moebius and Alpha, whilst being unable to act otherwise. On the topic of lifespan. Rex and Shulk weren't absorbed into the flow when Aionios was born. They do not age, and as such have opposed Moebius for ages. Mio is Rex's child. That's very clear, that's consistent. Rex doesn't get involved with Matthew because there's no real reason too. City folk lived distinct and separate lives from the casts of xc1 and 2. It's quite likely that Rex had no idea N made Mio into a Moebius. The liberators were a separate faction from the city...at least until they weren't any longer, and by that point it was too late. There's no reason to assume that Rex isn't the father. Mio had his golden eyes. Nia all but spells it out to her in their questlines. Mio was very obviously in the picture. The picture itself frames Rex in the center. He is the father of them all. Concerning the sacrifice. I get the impression that a lot of people are misunderstanding that. Rex and Shulk's own data were in the backup archives of origin. And given their importance to the universe and what's going on, and how they know everything, they knew as much going in. They became replacements for Pneuma and Logos, until the day would come this would all go back to normal. This means that when the world was reset, they would be alive again, and they would have their youths and uninjured bodies back. And they would get to live and see their children grow up. Rex alluded to this actually. Glimmer was no doubt older then she was when Aionios began. Seeing her look so much like her mother threw him for a loop.

The reason that Shulk, Rex or any of the original humans from the two previous worlds don't age, is because anything from those two worlds don't follow time. This is because at the time that we play in X3, time is paused by Moebius. However, anything new e.g. the Citizens of the City, the Soldiers, etc do age, because they follow time as normal. This is why we see Riku at the same age in base X3 as well as Future Redeemed.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Linka says in her dialogue right before she gets added to your community that some people including herself, Rex, Shulk, Riku and Panacea (presumeably Nia and Melia too) stopped the age process as they entered Aionios, which would still allow Mio to be Rex's daughter.

I assume Pyra and Mythra chose to return to their core to help power origin as basically the reset switch for after origin fully initiates. This also explains why the power of ouroboros is used to stop the endless now. As for Rex and his relationship to Matthew and why he is seemingly younger then his grandson Ghondor is easily explained by the fact that Rex and Shulk exist outside the flow of time in Aionios. Also being why they along with A become the new avatars of Origin after the defeat of Alpha.

I think Alpha didn’t let them enter the world Physically because he was afraid they would go against him

the "rex was talking about logos and pnuema" is actually what i was thinking when i got to that part of the story

3:25 Riku states his masterpon is Melia during this conversation, too

My headcanon based on just observations is that when the world's began to collide, alrest and bionis realized they needed to reboot the system, recreate the trinity processor. Klaus's last gift was to unbind pyra/mythra from the aegis core crystal, that's why they were both alive and separated. The pmuema core crystal is no longer part of the trinity processor, and pyra/mythra can live on with rex. SO this leaves 2 massive holes that need to be filled. rex gives his life to reside in pnuemas spot in the processor, I feel like that would be his place in the world - to make others happy and alive. shulk gives his life as logos' part, being a strong person willing to give anythingto keep the world alive for his wife and kid, finally completing the trinity. The shulk/rex we see in-game are just avatars or "blade" forms, they're not truly the real shulk/rex and that's why they aren't sacrificing themselves at the end of the game. That's also why Melia has the monado REX in keves castle, as a reminder of the sacrifice required for this world. "Those two" definity refer to pyra/mythra since they're such strong fighters, and "them" gotta be the previous logos/pnuema core crystals, since pnuama gave her life to rex at the end of 2 and nothing bad happened.

I think it would make narrative sense for Interlinking to require Logos and Pneuma's power. Interlinking is a reflection of the Jungian idea of the Union of Opposites, and Logos and Pneuma always stood in opposition, both in XC2 and before in the Trinity Processor, as Ontos was supposed to mediate between them.

Honestly, I wasn't really bothered by Pyra and Mythra not showing up, or rather was less bothered by that than the fact that they were brought up as Glimmer's mother and as Pneuma, but those two roles were never implied to have been the same people. Matthew may have had the original Pneuma Core within his gauntlets, but it kind of doesn't hit as hard for me when we've gone the entire game staring at another Pneuma Core on Glimmer's chest that nobody seems to notice. Nobody even acknowledges how similar it looks to the Ontos Core when Na'el wears it.

This lore is so insane and cool!! Thank you for making this video!

Rex is an avatar from Origin. They literally say that in the end scene. Rex was sealed away in origin but like some beings, could make an avatar of himself. Which had a human composition and life span. He gives up his Avatar's lifespan for Glimmer like Shulk does for Nikol. They aren't dead, but they can not become Avatars again. It's why they say they will be waiting. Mio is Rex and Nia daughter because she was born before the world's merged and Aionios was formed. So Rex's Avatar came to be when Alpha came to be to destroy the world. Rex and Shulk and Matthew want to protect the world and give them a chance to fix things where as Zed protects the world to sage guard the endless now. The core crystals thing is another instance of an avatar but for pyra and mythra, their avatars came in the form of a blade. Same with Logos. It's a short hand explanation but it's one I see a lot of people forget. The mention and execution of Avatars. That isn't the real Shulk and Rex in a physical sense. Just like the core crystals aren't the real deals. It's why Noah's sword is just a regular old sword at the end of Base 3 and he could throw it in the Ocean. What about Nia and Melia? Stasis. Melia was sealed in stasis on Origin and Nia kept her self in a literal stasis pod. So while they ARE the real versions of themselves, the others aren't. Hell, fun fact. Most beings of Aionios are just clones using data from Origin. So technically all of the Avatar talk in future redeemed is just full circle of how the cycle works in base 3

6:45 guys. THE GANG STOPPED AGING WHEN THE ENDLESS NOW STARTED. To age normally, you have to be a soldier or a Citizen born in Aionios. How else do you think Riku and Melly survived until base game?

I think as the world's were coming together and they started building origin pyra and mythra decided to fuse back together as they knew that their full core crystal would be needed in origin