Microsoft FINALLY killed it

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Visual Studio's relationship with Visual Studio Code is like Java's relationship with JavaScript

I sometimes wonder if the teams at Microsoft, who developed Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code, revel in the joy of knowing that the linguistic ambiguity of those products will continue to confuse people till the end of time. I take a hard guess and say yes.

I might be the only person who liked Visual Studio for Mac. I was hoping one day it would catch up to full functionality of MS VS. Every major release got a little better. Kinda bummed about this!

Visual Studio is an IDE with the Microsoft C/C++/MASM compiler. VSCode is a text editor. The MS compiler without the IDE can be installed separately, it's called the Microsoft Platform SDK at the moment. In the past, MS distributed the compiler-only version of Visual Studio as Microsoft Windows Build Tools. VSCode is an Electron JS app. Whereas, Visual Studio is mostly written in C, .NET, Windows SDK, and partly C++/ MFC, as far as I'm aware. EDIT: The names look somewhat similar.

The new C# Dev Kit Extension for VS Code is meant to bring a complete C# dev environment, and it does a descent job. You can view solutions and do other stuff in a way similar to the traditional IDEs.

I'm still an early-stage developer and appreciate the step-by-step mechanics of vs_code. That way I can explore each tool on its own and get familiar with its functions instead of navigating through an "overloaded" IDE. But I guess one day that will change and I will use the "ultimate toolset in the big old plastic suitcase".

Does this mean Visual Studio 2022 (or a future release) will be available for Mac? Or has Microsoft just admitted defeat for that demographic to Rider?

My problem with Visual Studio is speed. It takes a long time to start, long to build, and seems to stagger along for most of the projects I've worked with. VSC is much faster, and I only install the extensions I actually need. I've managed to learn a keyboard shortcut for pretty much everything, and its difficult to move away from that. My main use cases for VS are windows forms (yes, it still exists) and MAUI Blazor Hybrids.

Visual Studio was one of the reasons why I loved C# so much.

But sometimes a specific function doesn't exists or an infuriating choice was made for Visual Studio. But the culture of vscode around extension makes that you will most likely find an extension fixing your problem, while it's not often the case with Visual Studio. It's like if the big crate of tools include a broken one or is missing a specific screwdriver for an exotic end bit, you can have it if you build your own toolset

I don’t use Microsoft products and often I have no idea what this guy is talking about, but I LOVE watching his videos, I often ask myself why :)

I use Visual Studio to create MVC applications and when i want to practice an algorithm. When I want to create an api, I use VScode. One window open for Angular, another for c# code.

The main drawback of Visual Studio 2022+ is that you need Windows to run it. And yes this is a drawback for me. .NET is not Windows-only anymore. We hosted our .NET backend on a Linux server for years now. So developing it out of Windows is essential. We make sure that what we develop does not depend on something in Windows. Plus I don’t have to pay all that money to rund Windows cohesively within macOS. This is why I still prefer VS Code for everything, except iOS development; and I pick up just what I need.

This reminds me of when I was about to graduate with an actuarial science degree, and some people advised me to learn Visual Basic. So I got a library book on the topic and was learning along - I knew BASIC from using it on an apple //e as a kid, but had never used it in a context where I could operate a GUI (all of my programming experience had been strictly via text interfaces). I couldn't work out what it had to do with Actuarial Science, though. After I got rather far along, I finally worked out that I was supposed to be learning Visual Basic as a scripting language for Excel, which was completely different from what I had been teaching myself.

VS Code is fine, it's a basic code editor which can be endlessly configured and extended. It has an extension store, and you'll find pretty much anything in there. My biggest gripe with it, is consistency. I much prefer to use an IDE that's purpose-built for something, and excels at that. As such, I mostly use Intellij Ultimate, for both Java and Typescript/angular. Some of my colleagues have ditched VS Code for Intellij. Of course, Intellij is much heavier on the CPU and memory, but it's a big boy tool, and does everything better. Except when it slows down to a crawl 😂.

Regarding NativeScript + Angular, do you have any repository where the Angular application is located on the web and the client loads the application via a URL, enjoying the benefits of NativeScript?

If MAUI is as great as what MS claimed to be on cross platforms development, then their Visual Studio 2022/23 should build completely in MAUI. So VS for Mac can still live on

so what code editor we gonna use as I have m1 macbook

What are they replacing it with? I've just started using VS4Mac for MAUI app development. I don't particularly want to use VS in a VM or remote into my windows PC. I can't stand JS based app development. A bit stuck now.