Talib Kweli & Jadakiss Talk The Lox, Bad Boy, Ruff Ryder, Ignatius | People's Party Full Episode

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Published 2020-03-23
In this episode of People’s Party, Talib Kweli and Jasmin Leigh sit down with rapper, writer and true curator of the culture -- Jadakiss. This comprehensive discussion kicks off with talk of Jada and Talib's shared birth year of '75, at the ideal age to witness hop-hop's biggest points of evolution, both having grown up in its epicenter of New York City. They also discuss Talib's appreciation of the Lox for showing him love at the beginning of his career, while they occupied different lanes in regards to mainstream success. They reflect on Jada's growing up in Yonkers, and the emcees that inspired him most during those early years. The trio also explores what went into the makings of some of the classic recordings Jadakiss was involved with like "All About The Benjamins", "24 Hours To Live", "We'll Always Love Big Poppa", as well as albums such as "The Last Kiss", "Kiss Tha Game Goodbye", "Top 5 Dead or Alive", "Freddy vs. Jason", and his latest project "Ignatius" -- dedicated to his close friend and business partner Ice Pick Jay, who recently passed. Jada describes the challenges he had while recording that album, at times fighting back tears.

As the convo continues, the trio discusses the infamous Ruff Ryder studio sessions and the high level of competitive energy that kept everyone at the top of their respective games. They also touch on The Lox's strong family-like foundation that kept them close throughout the years, and Jada is asked about his short-lived beefs with 50 Cent and Beanie Sigel, as well as how they got squashed.

Deep into the episode, Jadakiss, Kweli, and Jaz discuss Jada's close friendship with Notorious B.I.G. and his role as one of the few, true custodians of Biggie's legacy. Jada also gives insight into the "Free The Lox Campaign", the creation of D-Block Records, linking up with Gang Starr on "Rite Where You Stand", and his Grammy-nominated record "Why." Talib goes on to name his top 5 Jadakiss verses -- while urging the People's Party audience to do the same -- and Jada gives the whole truth on the story circulating about Mike Tyson supposedly stealing his seat at the recent Biggie tribute in Atlantic City.

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  • @UPROXXVideo
    Timestamps below. Thanks to everyone for tuning in and be sure to subscribe and rate the audio podcasts on Apple and Spotify! 2:56 -- Jada and Talib discuss the privilege they share, both being born in 1975, growing up in NY, being fully immersed in hop hop, and seeing first hand it's evolution from humble beginnings, throughout the golden age and beyond. 5:19 -- Talib thanks Jada and The Lox for the respect they expressed when first meeting Kweli at the height of their fame and when his career had plenty of underground acclaim but not the same air play that the Lox and so may others enjoyed at the time. 7:41 -- Jada talks about coming up in Yonkers and the frustration he felt about his hometown often being overlooked, not getting the same recognition as other New York locals. 11:57 -- Talib points to Jada's signature flow, and asks who were his biggest influences on him coming up. Jada responds with paying homage to greats like Big Daddy Kane, Nas, Biggie, and more. He also gives due credit to his Mom for exposing him to hip hop at such a young age. 16:18 -- Jada speaks on the classic "24 Hours To Live", who came up for the concept for the song and how it all came together. 18:02 -- Jasmin asks Jadakiss about "All About The Benjamins," specifically who wrote Puff Daddy's verse on the hit. The convo turns to writing verses and how Kweli once did some writing for Diddy as well. They also discuss Kanye's rhyme about The Lox and Jadakiss says he always wondered if Mase wrote that verse for Kanye. 22:59 -- Jada describes what the Ruff Ryder studio sessions were like, and the competitive energy during those recordings that brought out the best in everyone. He also digs into the history of Ruff Ryders, how it was founded, and it's transformation into such an iconic movement. 25:51 -- Jada reflects on The Lox crew's lasting foundation, averting petty disagreements that would potentially fragment the strong bond that they were able to maintain over so many years. 28:06 -- Talib asks Jada about "The Last Kiss", and it felt to get so much industry support for that album. 29:31 -- Jada is asked about the mystique he carries as a legitimate voice of the streets, while avoiding jail time his whole life, and Talib asks him if that credibility comes from the realistic storytelling in his raps or his younger days hustling on the streets of Yonkers. 32:05 -- Jasmin asks Jada if he turned down any projects because he thought it might tarnish his reputation. 33:27 -- Talib Kweli and Jada look back at Jada's short-lived beef with 50 Cent, including his classic diss track "Checkmate," with Talib asking how it all got squashed. They then move on to discuss Jada's signature laugh, its origins, and how it's stuck around. 35:26 -- Jada frames the concept for his album "Top 5 Dead or Alive", and responds to people giving him credit for the phrase. Talib also recounts a quote from him stating that if you have a ghostwriter you can't be in the Top 5 conversation. 42:16 -- Talib asks Jada how important were New York mix-tapes to his ascension to the top 5 status. Jada also speaks on his battle rap mix-tape days with Beanie Sigel, and details how the beef was squashed. 45:36 -- Talib discusses the legacy of the Notorious B.I.G. with Jada, including the relationship they developed recording "Last Day" for "Life After Death." Jada then goes into the part he played in getting Lil' Cease and Lil' Kim back together before the Junior M.A.F.I.A. reunion, and Talib touches on how Jada is one of the few custodians of Big's legacy. 50:08 -- Jada reflects on the recording of the song "We'll Always Love Big Poppa", the idea for the song inspired during the funeral planning for Biggie. He also expresses how deeply heartbroken he was in the wake of Biggie's passing. 54:26 -- Talib asks Jada about what led up to "Free The Lox Campaign", and what transpired during that epic show. 58:36 -- Jada speaks on the creation of D-Block Records, the term was coined as a result of all the tension during the recording of Jada's album "Kiss Tha Game Goodbye". Talib also brings up J-Dilla's sampling of Jada's laugh on one of the last recordings before his passed, and they also discuss Jada's prominent feature on the Gang Starr classic "Rite Where You Stand". 1:02:43 -- Jada and Talib discuss their close mutual friendships with Styles P, and Talib asks how their back and forth rapping style started. The also speak on Sheek Louch's notable ability to keep evolving as an emcee after so many years. 1:07:56 -- Jada talks about his "Freddy vs. Jason" collaboration with Fabolous, and Jasmin asks Jada how the "SoRaspy" brand came about. 1:10:24 -- Jada gives detail on his latest project "Ignatius", and it's dedication to his close friend and business partner Ice Pick, who recently passed. He talks about how difficult it was getting through the making of that album as he would fight back tears during studio sessions. They go on to discuss the misconception of vulnerability being a sign of weakness. 1:15:28 -- Jada is asked about his recent collaborations with Pusha T, made possible by Ice Pick. Talib also asks Jada about his take on people blaming the youth for the violent conditions of the hood. 1:18:49 -- Jada talks about what inspired his thought provoking, Grammy nominated song "Why". He also notes his satisfaction when that song got the attention of Bill O'Reilly. 1:21:04 -- Talib calls out his top 5 Jadakiss verses of all time and asks the People's Party audience to weigh in on their favorites in the comment section. 1:23:45 -- Jada tells the whole truth about the story of Mike Tyson supposedly crashing the Biggie tribute in Atlantic city, stealing Jada's seat.
  • @diceraww
    THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST TRUE HIPHOP PODCAST YET!
  • @Bomma45
    Jadakiss still looking like that kid from the blocks a 19 year old never getting older Respect to the best that did n still doing this thing call hip hop ✌🏽👌🏽✊🏽🔥🙏🏽
  • @MrEer218
    The most open Kiss has been this whole promo run. Thank you Kweli thank you Kiss
  • @maxb4289
    Talib has has some amazing interviews. But as a 47 year old from the northeast this is one of the very best because I grew up on the LOX!!! Hiphop Standup!!!
  • @lh8956
    Great interview. Loved the fact Talib had Jada talk about Sheek. I get so annoyed how Sheek is overlooked so often. Sheek has some really good albums if you take the time to listen.
  • I've been waiting for this one right here. Jada and Talib!!! Can't ask for much more during this quarantine. Thank you Uproxx
  • @GRDos-ue4re
    "Once you build a core fan base, they know when you not doin what they love you for" - Jadakiss forever spits wisdom
  • @Meo9131
    Much respect for Kiss. Talking about group issues to the public gives way for folks to tear the group down and play on past issues that have already been resolved. I'm glad he's been getting his flowers and the new generation has been exposed to the illness of the Lox & Jada through things like Verzuz & the Ruff Ryders Bet series. I love how we have never seen a jail pic, they look good and they were able to get from under the Diddy curse.
  • That iconic Gravelly Voice instantly let's you know who's in the building.
  • @marcoliver484
    lets get Common and FAT Joe! this was a sick interview
  • @daust3583
    Only 199 likes for Kiss , people WAKE UP!
  • @scientific19
    WHO ELSE TAKING PAUSES TO LISTEN TO THE SONGS....FIYAH INTERVIEW!
  • @WILD__THINGS
    My favorite Jadakiss verse of all time was on "None of yall betta", especially when he said "The god, minus the 12 disciples I pop up, all you see is shells and rifles If I don't like you, I'mma kill you, not fight you I bite a lil piece of your ear off like Mike do"
  • @xxlaumic
    Rappers doing podcast shows you how different it is when it's a peer interviewing you because they know what you been through, know what it takes, the sacrifices and hardships but most importantly the CRAFT! Great interview! 🔥
  • @helpoj
    Its always sooo epic seeing two elite lyricist talking with each other, Like two superheroes
  • @zanehubbard
    Kiss has stayed in my Top 5 for years. Peace to the Generation Xers!