What did we actually learn from Man City vs Tottenham?

I'm surprised part of the narrative isn't how dangerous Spurs could really be to a team like city when not playing with half their normal starters. Most of the good City had were a result of bad passing for the CB partnership of non-CBs.

4:38 absolutely hit the nail on the head there Mr Bull. Those players will never improve nor understand the system Ange wants to impose if every time they’re slightly under any pressure they abandon all their principles. Edit: it’s also very curious/depressing that mainstream british punditry only has this approach of negativity towards expansive football, if a manager set ups with a low block and gets pumped by city you wouldn’t hear any comments about how they set up, but when a manager goes for it they all lose their heads

Ange had an impact on Celtic fans, he'll have the same impact on Tottenham fans. He wants fast attacking play and lots of goals - What's not to love?

Even as a Pool fan fighting against Spurs in the league, I admire Ange and his team so much. They have heart, spirit and cohesion. They're basically the opposite of United.

people forget when Klöpp came to the league he wouldn't change his way for nothing. everything clicked when he got the players to fit that. if Levy gives Ange this, the what a team that'll be!

Yves Bissouma had a bad game and I think a lot of that had to do with not having Sarr playing next to him. They just play off of each other exceptionally well.

Came for the football analysis on how Spurs played out, stayed for the elephants.

I think changing your style of play from positive attacking football to a low block is probably a confidence killer for the team. Its like your manager is saying "we can't play against these guys the way we know how to so lets drop back and hope for the best". I know as a player I would be quite angry that the manager doesn't trust the team to perform the way they have. This is a problem I think United suffers from as an example, they seem to play nice football when facing lower level sides but all that goes out the window when faced with a top side.

Genuinely love how free reign everyone's getting at Tifo honestly, the Elephant bit is just so wholesome in between the football analysis

I like that Ange sticks to his tactics. When your CBs are Royal and Davies you don't actually want them in position to be defending all that often. How do you accomplish that? You press and try and get possession. A low block with that back line would not have worked ultimately.

17:55 The Carthaginians (Mediterranean Africa) attacked the Romans by marching Elephants through Gibraltar and across the Alps like absolute madlads. The situation of panic and terror JJ was describing was that of the Roman rear guard who thought they were far, far away from the heat of the war.

Chelsea-Tottenham-City are the triumvirate of entertainment this season, 19 goals from three games so far is INSANE.

The thing when the media saying that Ange should change his playstyle is that it's because they see Tottenham as a lower tier football club. Would they tell Arteta, Klopp to change their tactics and the way they play against big clubs like City? No. Even tho yes, Tottenham is far from being the best club in England, but clearly his intent to stick to his principals even when playing against City is an attempt to make us the big team, or at least play like one.

As someone who's bored of Man City's domination, this season is constant joy

The pass was from Kulusevski, not Lo Celso

Feel like fans of the big 6 were driving this idea that Spurs were back to reality because of their 3 losses. As a Villa fan who has no real agenda, they were quality against us with a massively depleted squad. They also would’ve slapped Chelsea if Romero and Udogie didn’t lack discipline

JJ proving once again he is an actual man by bringing up the Roman Empire.

What I really like about Ange's system is that he is trying to combine the two most important aspects of the game - defending in numbers and counterattacking. He does this by playing out from the back to draw people in so that if they do lose it they have numbers (despite it being close to their goal), and if it works and you beat the press you have manufactured your own counter-attack. The system was much better in the second half than the first half, and that is an example of Ange being pragmatic and tactically astute (Gil doesn't have the physicality, sadly). And for all the craziness of the call at the end by the ref, and the howlers by Haaland we have a game here where City needed an own-goal to draw the game and looked pretty terrible defensively. Imagine if Spurs had had Romero, Van der Ven, Sarr, and Maddison (or Bentancur).

Gil for Hjoberg shows that Ange WILL change the team - the philosophy, AngeBall, will not change: it will entertain, it will succeed and Spurs fans will sing Ange's name for years to come. COYS!

"I made them Hench as well, look at the stonks on this one". This is the funniest thing I've heard all year like my neighbours heard me laughing I laughed that loud 😂😂😂