What's The Association For VO2Max With Life Expectancy? (Podcast Clip With Unaging.com)

For me the most important differential, was life expectancy comparison between fit, and extremely fit was only one year. The difference in lifestyle would benefit fit given the minor difference

I'm 39 and got my VO2 max up to 54 yesterday. My HRV is around 95ms. I need to do everything I can to prevent dementias otherwise my future may be very long and very sad.

The people who seemingly lived comfortably to a 100+ years old Dan Buettner’s book Blue Zones, weren’t pumping iron 90 minutes a day 0r micromanaging their diets. Stuff like just eating a mostly plant based diet, employing modest calorie restriction, having some sort of physical movement—usually just walking—most days—and prioritizing a stress free life, seems to work as well or better than this over the top stress inducing maxed out effort to be in the high percentile of VO2 Max. Another factor in Blue Zones longevity seems to be eating your heaviest meal at breakfast and then a much lighter meal in the afternoon and then nothing after that. I started doing this when I heard Mike say he stopped eating early in the afternoon to prevent having to get up and pee several times during his sleep period but my sleep is so much better now when going to bed after not eating for 5-6-7 hours it’s amazing. All this stress involved in maxing out our physical fitness might be having a negative effect.

A discussion of at rest biomarkers and functional biomarkers, and how they relate to aging could be a good topic.

Interesting discussion. I find Attia too focused on endurance training; it can be overdone. Long distance runners, as I used to be, end up with some damage to the heart due to scarring. The referenced paper discusses that their data does not handle this well, quoting "detection of exercise-related adverse outcomes may be obscured... Future studies that combine objective assessments of exercise capacity and PA status may be better suited to address this issue." Also, there is likely a significant element of reverse causation in the data Attia is using. Sick people don't have elite levels of VO2 max. My VO2 max has gone down recently due to illness, so it my health that is determining VO2Max, not the opposite. Evolutionary theory points to a wide variety of activities: some aerobic regularly practiced, some resistance training regularly practiced, lots of walking, regular doses of sunshine without burning, time in nature, whole foods, avoidance of industrial food products, plenty of sleep, the support of family and friends.

On my 61st birthday, according to Garmin, based on my power meter and my HRM, my estimated V02 Max was 72. Since then, after having caught Covid and being diagnosed with Coeliac disease, my (estimated) V02 Max fell to 48 before recovering to 60 18 months later.

Not sure I got around to answering Mike's question about balancing RHR with HRV with exercise for VO2max. By keeping total weekly aerobic/HIIT exercise at about an hour, over time that both develops my VO2max but still gives me enough recovery time that RHR and HRV scores are youthful.

The fact that weight is a factor in vo2max makes it interesting. I mean you could have two persons with the same vo2max while differing 30 kg in weight. Knowing that less bodyweight is correlated with better health one have to wonder what is giving the difference. Ideally youd want to compare people of equal weight with different v2max to know the effect of work capacity. For many untrained people a pretty important way to improve vo2max is probably to loose weight.

ive no clue of context or if it was mentioned somewhere but something of note: there might be some reversed causation going on: who has higher vo2maxes? ppl who work out - and who works out?: ppl that r healthy (if u r sick u hardly even can exercise) so this could by proxy possibly be a(n almost) "the healthier u r the healthier u r" correlation, which obviously is nearing a perfect correlation of 1,0 😛

Great clip!

I think 6 years is still crazy good and probably the 6 years are high in terms of quality of life.

What Peter stresses is that life expectancy is relatively meaningless unless health span is taken into account. 7 years of increased life expectancy due to good training regimes and nutrition could possibly mean 20 years of living without hindrance in your older years. The Marginal Decade is a vastly different experience depending on life style factors. Besides, I think many researchers would agree that BMI 25-30, especially the lower end of that range, is healthy for many and other factors have a larger impact on your health than BMI at that point. Being 25 BMI instead of 28 will not add 10 years to your life expectancy.

Hi Mike, excellent video, thank you again. A lot of people are following the view that they need to achieve a Vo2 max of "50 at 50" to maximize longevity based on the perspectives of popular podcasters. How can it be that the hazard ratio of having a super fit VO2 max is considerably lower (as related to low fitness and also as related to good fitness) but the added number of years of life expectancy is relatively low, at 2-3 years? How can the math work?

In my opinion, a normal 12 minute run and a person's distance covered is the most accurate measure of VO2MAX. This is called Cooper's test. The calculation table according to a person's age is available on the Internet.

Bull you do need to be healthy eat well and keep moving

Thx Prof LUSTGARTEN for this great interview that focused on the " less is more" approach as far as exercise is concerned.According to Chris is it enough , for older people for instance ، to just do every day a half an hour of brisk walking and 3 Short sprints (8-16 seconds each) and one hour resistance training once a week in the context of otherwise healthy lifestyle?

VO2max of 60 no way at 60. So how about at 72? Lab tested (it did drop to 57 a while later) and my RE lab tested at age 66 was 185. I was injured for 6 months last year so it did drop toan estimated 50 at age 76. PS For perspective I set one national and one world age record last year.

addon/refeerence: I just found this presentation on YT: Age-related Decline In VO2max: When Activities of Daily Living Become Athletic Events, he has some nice charts and references in it, and a practicable way to measure VO2max by sustainable workload

The issue with vo2 max correlation with mortality risk is that vo2max is heavily influenced by body weight and that itself correlates with mortality

Hi Michael, what are your thoughts on c15 fatty acid, better then omega 3s?