Why Modern MMO's Suck - Josh Strife Hayes Reacts

It's very smart of Josh to react to Josh's content. This way Josh's content will get views, and Josh's reaction will also get views, it's an absolute win for both channels.

Its a historic moment, Josh went from reviewing to reacting, bet he could turn 1 minute trailer to 2 hours like MatPat

If Josh did 'raids' of dead MMOs where 50+ people gathered to all start and explore the games at the same time, I'd join.

I was pleasantly surprised you touched on something I realised almost a decade ago now. It was a major paradigm shift for me and over time has become a bit of a saying of mine, that being "you can only truly experience something once." After the first time, it's not as special since that experience is already a part of you, your memory, and your history. You can do it over and over again to gain mastery over something, gain profit or reminisce to help resolidify a memory that has become patchy and/or full of holes over time however, the core lessons, concepts, information, and any other rewards have already been gained from the first time expierence. There's no reason to experience it again if there's no personal gain or motivation to do so. Our brain just says its no longer fulfilling to do so and would be a waste of time.

mans sounds more put together reacting live than he does in the original vid despite it being scripted. He's improved so much in three years lol

Your New World example a little over half way through was perfect. I hopped on day one, joined a guild and started recruiting as many people as possible to max out that guild. Started a sister guild , maxed that out then as a mega guild we conquered the first 2 zones, and it was awesome. For the first time ever in my 15 year MMO history, I was part a a community and even a leader of it. I would log on and people in general chat would welcome me and ask me to play with them. Unfortunately, it was New World so that experience only lasted about 2 weeks before everyone got bored and stopped playing, including myself.

josh turns a 20 minute video into a near 2 hours reaction I cannot complain, I love him

I have nostalgia for the authentic, organic community interactions. Now a day's they ALL feel like business exchanges.

Josh becoming a react andy and shamelessly profiting of the hard work of the original creator is heartbreaking. I will buy a third monitor and watch your content from there!

HE TOLD US HE WOULD DO IT AND HE ACTUALLY DID IT. We didn't deserve it, yet here we are. Best reaction streamer out there.

This reminds me how I, as a kid, would write down Minecraft recipes and basically make a softcover book for them. Taking a4 paper, folding it in half and staple it together. I let my brother use it whenever he wanted to play and he was so proud when he found something I hadn't and got to write a page.

I love the description of significance of items being important because of the journey. Reminds me of my first MMO I played, SWTOR, and getting my real lightsaber for the first time, having a training stick for several missions and then going on a big mission to forge my own lightsaber was such a highlight of the game.

"When you were playing, and you think 'maybe I should open the wiki'" That was the part that cut. I do inefficient things all the time in MMOs, and I think lots of people do. But the part we all do is look at or think about the wiki. Even if we decide not to do the efficient thing, we look at it and think about it.

That morrowind map thing is real. There's a book in the game called "Rare Artifacts of Tamriel". After I found the book, I put up the map on the wall and then proceeded to mark every location where I had found an artifact. I checked the list I pulled from the book, and I tried to figure out all the information from rumors and quests that might pertain to the artifact. It was maddening work, but I remember it all so fondly.

In Brandon Sanderson's Stormlight Archive, Journey before Destination is a major idea in the books and I greatly agree with it. Things suck if you are just given them, they are worthless.

Folding Ideas has made also a video about WoW especially, how the available information helps players to optimize the fun out of the game. Going on about raid-tools and so on. I would love to see you two discuss this topic together

We did a dungeon in ESO with 3 real life friends. and we didn't check any guide, we just went trough it and every time we were stuck, one of us said "i think it's this way" and we continued the exploration. It was simply awesome. But I know it's not the same for everybody and a lot of people would say it was inefficient, but we don't care, we had a lot of fun doing it that way.

The conversation about things that take a long time to do (around 35 minutes) is a direct reflection of the financial stress and pressure that we all face. No one feels like they have enough time to grind, or do side content, because we're all so rushed and under so much pressure all the time

You bit about making mistakes, and adding to the journey is so real for me. It wasn't in an MMO, but it was in Zelda 2. There is a late game dungeon that is basically all locked doors. I knew you could get by them with the 'Fairy' spell but i had no idea i was supposed to find the hidden village and get the skeleton key. So i painstakingly made my way through it with the spell only to find out later when i needed a spell you get from the same village to beat the mini boss in the final dungeon. There's a sense of pride knowing i beat a dungeon in the wrong way and i wouldn't trade that for anything

I do actually play MMORPG with people, and i have a lot of fun chatting on Discord and doing raids, playing multiple different games together and streaming our gameplay to those who just want to watch. I have played many games on and off with my closest friends, and I have played in guilds with discord, raidcall, etc, and though I find it hard to socialize sometimes, I know for a fact that playing together is better. I love that GW2 allows me to participate in multiple guilds, so I mostly socialize with the my small, cozy guild of casual old people, but I have the large guilds there at arms length anytime