The BEST subwoofer array for large concerts?
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Published 2020-09-10
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Why do you polarity invert the rear sub in a cardioid array? • Why do you polarity invert the rear s...
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All Comments (21)
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Hi Nathan, great video. Really appreciate.
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I have 4 52's (old i know) but it's what the band using our venue is allowing us to use. Also 4 18' powered subs. I aux them all. 52's on aux 7, 18's aux 8. I started having them LR of stage.... and just recently moved the 18's across the stage underneath. They're about 4-5ft apart....I was able to reduce volumes of all subs .. and even put 2 extra mains the owner had.... inbetween the middle empty sections of the subs pointing as if they were monitors. On their sides facing upwards. A cloth facade is all that blocks the front of them all.. and it sounds INCREDIBLE. I have almost no equing on the subs, just a 20hz hpf and slight db reduction on 60, 80, 100. It totally transformed the experience positively. It took me a year of messing and learning, but I'm finally pleased with the sound on and off stage. I tested the mics in front too, just because I was concerned ab feedback at full volume and with the right eq/gate/comp there was absolutely no tweaking required. If anyone is wondering my eq mix for mics, I usualy go 4:2 ratio on the compressor with 22-24atk/5hold/20release. Cut up to 140hz with hpf and very slight tweaks with skinny peq adjustments depending on what's happening.
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If it was me, I'd be moving off the stage by that meter as you said and probably do a delayed array with the center being 0 added delay. Really helps even out the low-end response in the room especially in that 270-degree issue but that would probably require more subs to be ultimately effective. Just my initial thoughts though lol I'm very much still learning.
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Hi nathan, have you tryied a center cluster of subs forming a triangle where the two front sub stacks are facing at a 90°, the rear cluster is inverted for cancelation towards the stage... this has really worked for me!! You should try it on the program see what results im getting!! Thanks
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Hi Nathan , the cancelation in the back can be improved adding an end fired / gradiend array Sub in the front line, it will generate more destructive waves in te back of the entire array . :)
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I always like the answer to the question: "Just BUY more subs". Gee, why didn't I think about that?!? I'll just run to the store, as soon as I pull that silver spoon out of my butt!
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hey nathan, is there any chance you can do a video of how to calculate spacing between horizontal subwoofer array and how to find delay per sub?
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So much appreciated.
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I really am novice to subwoofer cancellation and array time align, i only own the dbx driveracks, maybe i need to use more in my m32 x32. i dunno how to use smmart even. can you do a very basic video from the beginning of setup to show how to set up a crossover and such. Thanks
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Great job Nathan. Only thing I would suggest is NEVER let 100 hz get near your subs.
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I haven't watched all the vdos regarding this article but why we are using gradient pattern? Or is it just for trying out some options?
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Hi Nathan. Is there a reason why delay wasn't applied to the subs in an increasing increment as you move outwards from the centre ? What about the subs being 1/4 wavelength apart as a distance compared to the 4m distance initially indicated ?
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Hey i have a question, so when setting up subs in say a cardioid type of set up. Would i need to have several speaker management systems, like a dbx drive rack i dont understand how i can set delays on some and not the others when running multiple subs. Thanks for any help. As you can probably tell i am a rookie.
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how would be the distance with 7 columns and the processing? thanks !
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What’s the spacing between each set of subs and how much delay is each from the center subs at zero thanks
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What if the crossover is at 80Hz?
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Hey buddy can you help me please im making a new home theater and my space is 5m * 3.30m * 2.09m high and i have 2 monoliths 15 can you please tell me how i can find the best position to my subs?? How i can make it to 3d in pc or maybe you can make it and tell me where i have to put them exactly 🙄 Please Little help🙏🙏🙏
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Pls what the software you are using ?
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Would you not cross the subwoofer quite sharply at 80-90 HZ?? Wouldn't that eliminate your 100 hz issue? No one wants to listen to 100hz anyways