ISI, Taliban and Kashmir: A History of Militancy in Pakistan - Zahid Hussain - TPE 346

Published 2024-03-04
Zahid Hussain comes on for an explosive episode of The Pakistan Experience on the history of militancy in Pakistan.

On this episode, Zahid Hussain talks about TTP 2.0, Afghanistan, Kashmir, the 1980s, Benazir Bhutto, Hamid Gul, Musharraf, Lal Masjid, Baloch Insurgency, 9th May and more.

Zahid Hussain is an award-winning journalist and writer. He is a correspondent for The Times of London and The Wall Street Journal. He also has covered Pakistan and Afghanistan for several other international publications, including Newsweek, the Associated Press and The Economist.

Hussain has authored two books: Frontline Pakistan: The struggle with militant Islam (2007) and The scorpion’s Tail: The relentless rise of Islamic militants in Pakistan (2010). The books have won widespread acclaim as seminal texts on the subject.

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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:15 TTP 2.0, Militancy and Afghan Policy
8:30 History of Militant Policy in Pakistan and Kashmir
14:00 ISI and the 1980s
17:49 Pakistan as a Frontline State
20:30 Benazir Bhutto's policy on militancy and her assassination's
28:30 Musharraf and Zia-ul-Haq
34:30 Lal Masjid, State Patronage and Legacy
43:00 Musharraf, Bugti and Baloch Insurgency
56:30 State Policy, Doctrines and 9th May
1:05:32 Audience Questions

All Comments (21)
  • @brijkhanna2417
    Please don't forget that it was Benazir only who gave official call of Jehad against India while visiting POK .
  • @NYN_000
    He is good guest. Right on the point. No drama, no self-claims, no false history narration like other guests.
  • @NYN_000
    Jinnah was right. Thanks to him for separating this mess from India. India would not have been this much ahead today without partition.
  • 1947 se hi mujahid bheja tha and since 65, bleed india policy has been implemented. Its an another thing that Bleed Pakistan ho gaya..😂
  • @sccyt
    Pakistan destroyed itself with the Kashmir obsession. The Afgan play was just to pay bills.
  • @Sindhi001
    I admire Mr. Zahid Hussain for describing the problems pertinent to Pakistan without comparing to India. He doesn’t suffer from ‘also in India’ syndrome. His clarity about the problems is truly admirable.
  • Pakistan’s India hatred and its obsession with hurting India has truly destroyed the country. Almost to the point of no recovery…
  • The uprising in 1989 in Kashmir was not indigenous. Lt General Asad Durani, ex-ISI chief was better informed on the subject. He has confessed during his interview with Mehdi Hasan of Al-Jazira, that the uprising in Kashmir was the biggest achievement of the ISI. Please watch, Pakistan a victim or creator of terrorism on You Tube.
  • @farhanakbar996
    Yeh podcast sun k aik taraf tu banda Zahid Sahib ka fan ho jaata hai dosri taraf hairat bhi hoti hai k Zahid Sahib aisi batain karty hain aur phir bhi bachy huay hain. Allah Pak Zahid Sahib aur Shehzad Bhai aapko apne hifz o amaan main rakhay k aap log asal masail saamny laaty hain despite consequences.
  • @rkchoubs
    The tragedy is that Pakistan military and leadership is not realizing their mistakes, even now .
  • @alifahad9992
    Very informative, The awaited person finally came.Thanks TPE
  • @nuramura
    India must declare 14th August as ‘Good riddance Day’ holiday
  • Maximum Pakistanis want shariya in their state according to pew research survey,but they are against TTP.bhai mulq me confusion ni hai pura mulq hi confused hai😛😛
  • You've brought another favourite person to the program. His book No win war is one of my favourites.
  • @bopalkaravi
    My God. What a soft spoken person. So devoid of malice. So erudite. Yet so hard hitting. Almost a whistle blower. So Un-Pakistani. I viewed this twice. I may do so again.
  • @FawadMasud
    Zahid Sb is an absolute Gem and Shehzad was absolutely right that there should be a series with him on how our country was destroyed by our own leaders.
  • I feel humbled listening to these sane, knowledgeable amd thought provoking voices. Great going Shehzad bhai
  • @iamwham
    Even as a leftist contributor in the Pakistani space, I find it astonishing that you are unable to unequivocally condemn how the encouragement of fundamentalist Islam and terrorism by Pakistan has destroyed the Kashmiri youth and the possibility of peace with India. It was a stupid foreign policy and even now the civilian leaders refuse to acknowledge it, asking for proof and such. You can find the records of ISI directing the Mumbai attacks. Be a responsible neighbor if you want to progress. Roti, kapda,padhai aur makaan are the basic needs of our populace.
  • @BharatiyaVaasi
    Thank you for the wonderful podcast with Zahid Hussain Saab! The conversation was engaging, but I was taken aback when Hussain Saab mentioned "Kashmir mein militancy theek thaa." I'm confused about what he meant by that. Is he suggesting that militancy is acceptable in Kashmir but not in Pakistan? It's important to remember that extremism, militancy, or terrorism is never justifiable, regardless of the location. Unless people change their mindset, Pakistan will keep heading towards extremism.
  • @newguyat77
    8:46 history of supporting militancy in Afghanistan started in 1972 by ISI. Christiane faire in her book referred based on green books of pakistani army.