How one event changed Star Wars’s timeline forever

Glad to see more voices like this cropping up. Positive lore minded channels like this give me hope for the fandom.

This is why we need clone wars style series’ that cover both during and post empire era stories. We’ve never gotten say a series with Han Luke and leia together in animation and it’s been free real estate for decades. Same for sequels if we could get both live action and animated series that cover those 30 years it’ll go a long way

While I like how you explained Cinder better than the actual lore did, and I appreciate it somewhat more now, I still wish the sequels had not basically repeated the whole Empire vs Rebels conflict. I still maintain that choice was lazy and I prefer having the Empire fragment into warlord territories that would continue to challenge the New Republic until the best of both sides would create a better galactic society through Hegelian Dialectics in the form of the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances, as what happened in Legends. I like how Legends acknowledged that galactic society had simply become too big to be ruled by a single entity. The reason why so many Outer Rim worlds joined the CIS is because the Republic had exceeded its grasp through relentless expansion over a thousand years, causing it to become decentralized and neglectful to the Outer Rim.

I find it funny how Rey was basically hidden on a world that Palpatine would DEFINITELY have access to considering the observatory but since Jakku was designated basically as the galaxy’s backwater(less) world not even he gaf 💀💀😭😭

The capital of the U.S. is Washington D.C. But having scenes of people reporting to the FBI, CIA, or a Naval base in New York would not be unrealistic. But yes, it would be cool to mention Chandrilla in future post-RotJ scenes involving Mon Mothma at least.

As much as I don't like most of Disney canon, it does give us a pretty unique (for Star Wars) situation after TROS. There's no government at all. The New Republic was wiped out by Starkiller Base, the First Order is gone. Sith Eternal are gone. There's no government. It's a blank slate.

Agreed. Palpatine not actually dying in ROTJ. One event ruined everything.

The Legends variant, with the galaxy dissolving into warlordism, makes more sense. Cinder itself now makes little sense, since Palpatine ended up not so dead after all.

U know, a lot of people hate Operation Cinder and Palpatine's contingency plan. But that has to come from people being misinformed, biased or just from them lacking media literacy. Because Palpatine never cared abt the Empire, just like Dooku never cared abt the Confederacy. It was all a means to an end. Empire was good, but it was only useful while Palpatine ruled it. So operation Cinder is a genious plan on his part, totally on the level of Sidius's manipulations during the Clone Wars.

Operation Cinder is probably one of the dumbest things to come out of Disney canon to justify the sequels. Why would all of these high ranking Moffs basically shoot themselves in the foot by torching most of the Empire? Are we to believe they would all blindly follow the idiotic plans of a dead emperor? And the New Republic just demilitarizing and no extra conflicts arising after the fact is unrealistic. There would have been many Moffs acting as warlords for years after the conflict. Also, is it really a better plan to torch all of your resources, flee to the unknown region to rebuild with no infrastructure or vast trade with the rest of the Galaxy, and come back thirty years later expecting anyone to support you? It's like if a certain mustache man from Germany fled to the Moon after nuking his own Rhineland and returning in the 1970s expecting to conquer everything.

There's a lot of stories to tell in the gap between 2 and 20 ABY. Just as the Clone Wars fixed a lot of issues and gaps in the prequel trilogy, there are a lot of unanswered questions raised by the sequel trilogy, especially Rise of Skywalker. Project Necromancer does a good job exploring the notorious "somehow, Palpatine returned" matter. But, there must be a lot of untold stories about amassing a construction crew and building a fleet of Star Destroyers armed with planet killer weapons on a planet that is nearly impossible to find without very rare Sith tools. Instead of a plot flaw, it's a writer's challenge, and I am eager to see how this is handled, and what stories come out of it.

Maybe the reasoning of Coruscant being very prominently featured is because the de jure capital may be the current planet designated as the capital(directly post-cinder it's chandrila in this case), but Coruscant is the de facto capital

My main issue with Operatio Cinders is that imo Palpatine was too arrogant to even think that he and his empire could ever fail. Remember in ROTJ how he doesn't even expect Vader to betray him while he's torturing his son Luke. So that's why I'm not really on board with the idea that Palpatine would prepare a contingency plan, he never even thought that he would need it.

Palpatines contingency to "destroy" the empire and new republic during the battle of jakku as you explained makes no sense with how huge the empire actually was. It's literally not possible for the empire to have all their resources situated in one planet. Do people have any idea how absolutely enormous the empire and the galaxy is? For the empire to be present in the entire galaxy it has hundreds of thousands if not millions of naval vessels. This idea that the empire could and would have most of their forces in one battle is impossible and a logistical nightmare. Biggest battle of the war? Certainly. But this idea that most of both of their forces would be destroyed is just not possible.

This was a really good explanation of the purpose behind Operation Cinder. I'll admit, going into this I was a little confused about why Palpatine would destroy everything if he intended to come back eventually, but the idea of pushing people further into fanaticism while making others long for the days of the "good" Empire makes a lot of sense.

I wish the New Republic were never demilitarised in the first place!

If the Lucas group was smart, they would put together a group like they did for the High Republic. Take the era between the trilogies and work it out the same way.

lol “just take us to Chandrila please!”. Also, I really hope we finally see Gallius Rax. He’s a very important part of the year after Endor.

I’m gonna love watching your channel grow

Such an awesome video, and really does line up with our anxiety/hesitancy around how Thrawn will be adapted and handled, especially with how Filoni and Favreau are open to slightly retconning canon and not setting specific dates for their shows. The lack of Rae Sloane being mentioned also bites a bit, but hopefully Hux was simply appearing in her place to keep things as secretive as possible for the proto-First Order. Snoke and his attendants presumably also usurp Sloane at some point, but his injuries thanks to Luke also means he was in the main galaxy in some manner as well - does that mean he's got a chance of showing up at the end of the Mandoverse, or at least the first decade post-Endor? We have the feeling that Thrawn will ultimately not be supported by Palpatine and his eventual forces, but it could be a question of if Palpatine's happy to see what Thrawn can achieve, or if he intends to have his agents undermine him at a crucial point. And will Zahn get a chance to continue the Grysk storyline if Filoni is ultimately in charge of presumably ending Thrawn's story in canon? All questions we got, but happy to have your video to emphasize how effective and horrifying Operation Cinder really was for the official end of the Galactic Civil War!